Video: Informative Scientific Debate on Pros and Cons of Lockdown
A very welcome television debate among science professionals on the merits and demerits on the policy around lockdown and the unintended consequences.
In the discussion is Professor John Lee who makes the case against lockdown and is opposed by lockdown defender, Assistant Professor Tomas Ryan. Watch below:
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Tom O
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A really fascinating debate between a stump and two minds. And the stump ends up saying “this is a very dangerous virus” and he’s not even a virologist. And no matter what, he is oblivious of the truths that are being spoken to him. An honest to God “snowflake.”
I loved a couple of the statistics stated. The average life span in the UK is 82, and the average death of a COVID death is 82! And in Ireland, a single death among people under 25? Out of millions!
And he calls it a very dangerous virus! Shows the incredible power of the “Main Scream Media” and the genuine incapacity of a mind that was never taught how to think, only what to think.
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Dean Michael Jackson
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The pros and cons of destroying economies and Western Civilization! Notice no one is mentioning the Marxist co-option of the West’s institutions, thereby identifying the ‘con’ false opposition…
“Trust but VERIFY” – President Ronald Reagan’s watch phrase when dealing with the USSR…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As6y5eI01XE
(1) The West conspired to not VERIFY the ‘collapse’ of the USSR, even though the survival of the West depended on verification should the ‘collapse’ be a ruse, which proves (1) there was no ‘collapse’ of the USSR, because if there had been a ‘collapse’ the West would have immediately VERIFIED the ‘collapse’; and (2) the West’s institutions were co-opted by Marxists, explaining the West’s enabling of the fake ‘collapse’ of the USSR…quod erat demonstrandum.
(2) Throughout the 1980s the West conspired to regurgitate Soviet Bloc under counting of communist party membership numbers in order to facilitate the canard of imploding Soviet Bloc political establishments, explaining the West’s enabling of the fake ‘collapse’ of the USSR…quod erat demonstrandum.
(3) Before any religious sectarian strife in Yugoslavia (1991 – 2001) first there would have been massive reprisals against the reviled Communists who implemented draconian discriminatory policies to wipe out religion in Yugoslavia. LCY anti-religious discriminatory policies were so effective that within fifty years those who were without a religion increased by an astronomical 3,100%! The fact that no reprisals took place against LCY members proves that the ‘religious strife’ and ‘breakup’ of Yugoslavia was manufactured and controlled by the Communists.
(4) The World War I Allies never did immediately send a naval expedition to Petrograd to easily topple Lenin & Bolshevik’s November 7, 1917 coup, thereby promptly returning Russia to the war, Russia’s involvement in the war being a critical variable for the Allies’ victory strategy against the Central Powers, proving (a) that the Allies knew they were going to win the war; (b) that the war was set up to (i) weaken the West’s influence in the world; (ii) weaken the West’s people’s confidence in their institutions and what those institutions stood for; and (c) one objective of the war was to settle into power the first above board Marxist state, with more to follow. In fact, there already was an anti-Marxist force in Russia at the time that if ordered would have conquered all of Bolshevik Russia during this period when the Bolsheviks were very weak. The unit was the 60,000 strong Czechoslovak Legion (soon to be 100,000 strong) but instead of sending the legion 700 miles north to Petrograd, the Allies sent it on a 6,000 mile odyssey across Russia to Vladivostok for evacuation to Europe(!), once again proving the Allies knew they were going to win the war…that the war was a Marxist operation.[1]
(5) “On the initiative of the KGB, an army of Soviet vigilantes five million strong, the so-called ‘druzhiny’, was recruited from among the Komsomol activists. Their units were led by retired Chekists. They have been patrolling and policing the streets of all the Soviet cities. Their primary task has been to prepare the Soviet people to ‘behave’ during the forthcoming ‘liberalisation’.” – KGB defector Major Anatoliy Golitsyn, ‘The Perestroika Deception‘, March 1989, pp. 14-15.
(6) Leningrad Oblast (Province) is still named Leningrad Oblast! Engels City is still named Engels City! Engels Air Force Base is still named Engels Air Force Base! Russian military personnel still refer to each other as “Comrade”! Kaliningrad Oblast is still named Kaliningrad Oblast! The State Emblem of the Soviet Union is atop the Duma building, and illuminated at night for clear viewing! Soviet Red Stars are still attached to the bows of Russian naval ships! The Hammer & Sickle logo is still on Aeroflot commercial aircraft! Not one statue to Lenin has been destroyed in Russia, where out of the 3,000 still standing throughout Russia, only a handful have been carefully taken down (in locations where tourists frequent) and hidden away in parks and museums, the remainder of these monstrosities to Russian nationalism/Russian Orthodox Church rubbing historical salt into still open wounds of Russian nationalists! The Russian ‘electorate’ are only ‘electing’ for president Soviet era communist party member Quislings, who persecuted the 85% of the religious population held captive by the Communist Party during the ‘Soviet era’!
At my blog, read the articles…
‘House of Cards: The Collapse of the ‘Collapse’ of the USSR’
‘Playing Hide And Seek In Yugoslavia’
Then read the article, ‘The Marxist Co-Option Of History And The Use Of The Scissors Strategy To Manipulate History Towards The Goal Of Marxist Liberation’
Solution
The West will form new political parties where candidates are vetted for Marxist ideology/blackmail, the use of the polygraph to be an important tool for such vetting. Then the West can finally liberate the globe of vanguard Communism.
My blog…
https://djdnotice.blogspot.com/2018/09/d-notice-articles-article-55-7418.html
[1] Even more telling is neutral Denmark’s laying mines off its coastal waters in international waterways in August, 1914 [thereby violating the 1857 treaty opening the Danish Straits to all shipping, where, “No ship of any kind may, under any pretext whatsoever, be subjected to detention or obstruction at the passage of the Sound or the Belts”] at the prompting of Germany (Germany too lays mines in the Danish Straits) and Great Britain does nothing! Not a word from the Allies (and the usual deafening silence from the Marxist co-opted press), in fact, even though access to the Baltic Sea is critical for the Allies to roll up Germany quickly by (a) closing the Baltic Sea to all German surface/subsurface vessels; (b) denying German access to trade with Sweden; (c) bringing the Royal Navy and the Imperial Russian Navy together; (d) forcing Germany to relocate critically needed infantry divisions and heavy armaments away from the Western Front for the new Baltic Front; (e) allowing British and Russian troop landings across the Baltic coasts, preventing German forces from moving eastwards towards Russia; thereby (f) knocking Germany out of the war before one shot is fired.
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tom0mason
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From the video, John A. Lee, with reference to old people dying, says something like —
“We need to be able to have a grown-up conversation about death in our societies. The fact is when you get to your 80s you have a high chance of dying of all diseases. In the UK, at least, the average age of death is about 82, the average age of death of COVID is a bit older than the average of death. So, the fact is that there is no evidence that COVID is really impacting on the overall lifespan of the population.”
In a rational society one would
1) would isolate with effective preventive measures the most vulnerable.
2) Isolate, treat, (and test* and trace the contacts) of those with serious symptoms.
3) Allow all other to go about their business normally – no masks, no lockdowns.
IMHO …
Isolate the sick, and separately isolate the vulnerable. Everyone else is on business as usual.
*test involves PCR AND diagnostic tests to show with evidence a COVID infection. If PCR is positive but diagnostics show no evidence of infection after 10 days, then it is highly probable it is a false PCR positive — and therefore NO infection. If however PCR is negative and there are diagnostic indication to show an infection then a follow-up more diagnostics (with isolation) is required to see if it is COVID, or any other infection.
Sooner or later the majority of the population will have this infection. Neither lockdowns nor masks can stop this. What is desperately needed is better array of diagnostic tests (PCR alone is NOT good enough!).
Great plagues all through history have not eliminate humans, this infection also will not.
With rational measures most people can get on with their lives quite normally because for the vast majority of the population COVID is NOT a deadly disease!
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Jacques
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Isolation should be a voluntary, personal thing. Anyone who wishes to isolate can do so, but nobody should be forced, coerced, or scared to isolate themselves or do anything for that matter.
Consider this – statistically and rationally speaking, a person who is, say, 80 years old has a good chance of dying basically at any time. Is the remaining time they have better spent locked up at home, likely watching scaremongering about death on TV or going about life as usual, enjoying the things people like doing, such as getting together with friends, family? Feeding the birds? Whatever? Locking up elderly people under the pretext of “protecting” them is criminal!
Likewise, it’s equally as criminal to rob children of education and normal life. Their lives are being destroyed.
The PTB need to be sued for crimes against humanity.
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Betty Boop
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ROSS CLARK reveals, things might not be anywhere near as bad as the fear-mongers would have you think…
Last year, for example, 51 out of 59 ICU beds in Liverpool’s hospitals were full, while in 2018 it was 52 out of 59 beds.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8845533/Coronavirus-Soaring-infections-death-rates-claims-justify-lockdowns.html
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Betty Boop
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Sir Andrew Witty, the former chief executive of the British pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline, said a vaccine would normally take 10 to 15 years to develop.
Bill & Melinda Gates and their GAVI machine want to pump it into the population within 10 to 15 months.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trudeau-pledges-300-million-to-fight-covid-19-abroad-1.5002598#_gus&_gucid=&_gup=twitter&_gsc=QaLSEiU
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Betty Boop
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Ontario’s Former Chief Medical Officer Dr. Schabas – Full Interview
“Quarantine belongs back in the Middle Ages. Save your masks for robbing banks. Stay calm and carry on. Let’s not make our attempted cures worse than the disease.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU2J-AMpo4&feature=emb_logo
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