The “Man in the Moon”

Exploring our planet’s Moon is child’s play, compared to the difficulties to reach and explore just our nearest planetary neighbor

Perhaps the fabled creature ought to be renamed to  “Man on the Moon” instead of “Man in the Moon ( Man in the Moon ) .”

I think your know what I’m referring to: After a 50-year absence from the Earth’s lovely Moon, there is a new attempt by the USA (and other countries), to send a rocket and, a few years later, actually some people to the Moon.

NASA’s new Artemis-1 Moon rocket is certainly impressive but it’s just thought of as a stepping stone to a futuristic landing of astronauts (again) on the Moon and, in the more distant future, on Planet Mars.

What changed in 50 years?

Neither the physical Moon nor the Earth changed perceptively.  They still go around their trodden paths. “Down here,” there may have been some changes, politically, economically, demographically, militarily, etc.  Basically, I would summarize them as “normal evolutionary developments.”

The last two+ years were certainly difficult in many ways, the most incisive being the “COVID-Affair,” thought of by many pundits as a “world-altering” catastrophe. However, despite the deaths claimed as a consequence, the entire world population is quite stable and, actually, still increasing at the same rate it has for 70 years .

A few days late

OK, the launch was postponed for a few days due to unstated “engine issues” or so. —  No problem. Any undertaking of that magnitude, cost, and futuristic expectations may have a few hiccups.

But what, really, is now, again, driving the whole idea?

It couldn’t be just bragging rights. After a 50-year hiatus of “planting the flag,” what’s now the driving force behind the new super effort?

The rock samples brought back from the past explorations did not enlarge mankind’s knowledge of mineralogy or geology. These samples have mostly been collecting dust in museums’ drawers.

At least for some of the proponents of all this “space exploration,” it appears to be a new “Gold-Rush” idea. Sort of like the California or Klondike (Canada) finds that drew thousands of folks to search for the motherlode and get lucky and rich. Yes, a few folks did but most did not.

A new “Gold-Rush”

As described in the post on CBC, we get already advice from legal experts as to what’s allowed and what’s not; see: “Humans want to mine the moon. Here’s what space law experts say the rules are;” ( https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/moon-mining-outer-space-treaty-1.6568648 )

Gold, and/or other potential ( = hoped for ) mineral resources may indeed exist on the Moon, Mars, various asteroids, and other heavenly bodies. However, they are not just a cross-country trek or Chilkoot Pass climb away, as arduous as they were.

No, that new frontier is different by magnitudes of technology, materials, costs, and human ability to live at extreme climatic and other conditions.

Exploring our planet’s Moon is child’s play, compared to the difficulties to reach and explore just our nearest planetary neighbor.

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    Jerry Krause

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    Hi Klaus,

    Tremendous Article!!!

    What you did not mention is that we have explored our nearest planet Venus and what has been observed there is Gold which really hasn’t been mined. For the same reason that we (U&SA) are i in out present mess. Too many people who have no idea of what SCIENCE is about and have retreated to the world of the philosophers who believe they can reason better than SCIENTISTS can OBSERVE.

    Have a good day, Jerry

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      T. C. Clark

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      Observable? Most of the Universe is Dark Matter and Dark Energy which is ….hard to observe. Black holes…..are hard to observe….no one can walk inside a black hole and observe…no instrument can be sent in to observe. Quantum Mechanics can be hard to observe. Hard to observe what happened a fraction of a second after the Big Bang…..sigh, observing can be hard, no?

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        T. C. Clark

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        I might add that the Large Hadron Collider has maybe discovered 3 new particles….and there is the X particle being investigated……and more particles may be there….but hard to observe.

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          Luís

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          Lol, do you believe all that??? It’s hilarious, mate!!!
          The way “scientists” fabricate sophistries which actually aren’t proved, and most people swallow it for granted!!!
          There are no “black holes”, “black matter”, “black energy”,
          “Big bang” or even a “X particle”!!! 😅😅😅. How convenient to invent a particle which they cannot even descrivlbe!!
          It doesn’t cross your mind that the ‘big bang’ actually breaks the scientific fact of “law of causation”??? That anything happening, any change has to have a cause???
          Having said that, of course you are oblivious to the pagan/occult aspect of all these “scientific” sophistries.

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            T. C. Clark

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            Ahhh, You are the One….the One who knows…tell us more. Too bad that you cannot venture into a black hole and prove once and for all that none exist, eh? I think the estimate of black holes is billions or more in the Universe. Hmmmm….maybe you will volunteer to go to the LHC and stand next to the next collision?

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            The Last Rebel

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            True

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          Jerry Krause

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          Hi Luis,

          What is the cause of gravity? What is the cause of inertia?

          Have a good day, Jerry

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            Jerry Krause

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            Hi PSI Rader,

            I will try to Dave you some time. Another video where I am told that Einstein DIDN’T KNOW ANYTHING BUT THE UNKNOWN SPEAKER DOES.

            Have a good day, Jerry

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            aaron

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            Jerry, shouting does not make you correct
            gravity is a THEORY not a FACT

            The Universal Theory of Gravity is often taught in schools as a fact, when in fact it is not even a good theory.

            First of all, no one has measured gravity for every atom and every star. It is simply a religious belief that it is “universal”.

            Secondly, school textbooks routinely make false statements. For example, “the moon goes around the earth.” If the theory of gravity were true, it would show that the sun’s gravitational force on the moon is much stronger than the earth’s gravitational force on the moon, so the moon would go around the sun. Anybody can look up at night and see the obvious gaps in gravity theory.

            The existence of tides is often taken as a proof of gravity, …
            https://ncse.ngo/gravity-its-only-theory

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            Jerry Krause

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            Hi PSI Readers,

            After making mess of a previous comment (September 7, 2022 at 5:22 pm) maybe should’t make another comment. But Newton, who wrote (as translated by Motte): “And to us it is enough that gravity does really exist, and act according to the laws which we have explained, and abundantly serves to account for all the motions of the celestial bodies, and of our seas.”

            Asron wrote (September 7, 2022 at 9:23 pm):
            “The Universal Theory of Gravity is often taught in schools as a fact, when in fact it is not even a good theory.” First, a theory must be a theory and no one who understands the English language should ever consider it a fact. Facts are the observed motions of the celestial bodies, and of our seas.

            And Aaron if you know a better THEORY to explain these motions, let us read about this different theory.

            Have a good day, Jerry

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            Jerry Krause

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            Hi Aaron,

            Density equals mass of matter divided by the volume of the matter. Gravity acts upon a given mass of matter, regardless of its volume. which falls according to a certain observed SCIENTIFIC LAW.

            Have a good day, Jerry

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      JERRY KRAUSE

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      Hi Klaus,

      I don’t know if you were following NASA’s observations of Venus as I was. I only know that John O’Sullivan and you an others founded PSI in about 2013. Long after I attended an International Colloquium On Venus August 10-12, 1991 because I had a poster presentation there of my idea about the cause the Venus’s atmosphere’s observed SUPER ROTATION. Which, well before 1991, had become a challenge for atmospheric scientists to explain. And I had gone to this colloquium knowing my proposed explanation was based on a totally wrong assumption of the direction that the vanes of the common and simple radiation rotated, as explained in the abstract that I had submitted that was published to be handed out at the beginning of the colloquium. But I went and made my poster presentation welling to admit my MISTAKE to anyone who called it to my attention. But to this time, no one has.

      Back in the early 1970s, chemists in major university were teaching in the their introductory courses about the idea of the greenhouse effect of atmospheric carbon dioxide so I was expected to teach about in my introductory courses at my community college. Somehow it had been observed that Venus’s atmosphere was composed of a very, very, dense carbon dioxide atmosphere relative to the trace amounts of CO2 in the earth’s atmosphere and somehow the temperature of the Venus surface was observed to be about 475C (900F). So Venus’s atmosphere and surface temperature became an unquestionable example of the GHE as its total cloud overcast prevented the surface from being observed by either visible or infrared radiation.

      Now a fact is that these atmospheric scientists never have explained the cause the Venus atmosphere’s SUPER ROTATION. So it seems they moved on to GREENER PASTURES, the GHE, as they ignored to possible influence of the total overcast. Just as most meteorologists ignore what the meteorologist R.C. Sutcliffe wrote (Weather & Climate, 1966): “[clouds] have a profound effect on our climate.”

      And I have not read that Jet Streams are an example of the earth’s atmosphere’s SUPER ROTATION!

      Have a good day, Jerry

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    Melty

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    I thought the rock samples brought back from the Moon led to such hypotheses as “Giant Impact”, “Late Heavy Bombardment” and “Nice Model”.

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      Sum Ting Wong

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      You hear about the recently tested “moon rock”? Turned out to be a piece of petrified wood. No wonder the gov’t has made possession of any “moon rocks” a felony. All overflights of the former “manned lunar landing sites” on the moon are forbidden, too. Probably because there’s nothing to see??

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    Kevin Doyle

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    Another wet-dream exercise.
    Let’s figure out the most expensive way to jerk off, while ignoring fundamental problems on our own planet, such as clean drinking water…

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    Luís

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    Amazing how most people still believe NASA been to the moon! And you don’t find odd why they stopped going 50 years ago? Did you know NASA is trying to “go back” since 2004/5???
    Obviously that all those who believe in this myth never took the effort to research and study all the little details, because the devil is in the details. I could mention just a few, but even that would make this comment very long. The most ridiculous obvious hoax was Nixon pretending to speak on the phone to the moon… even today, we might have some problems with our mobile phone connectivity, but Nixon managed to speak on the phone to the moon, hey??? 🤡
    What about the Van Allen Belt? If Armstrong was the first to step on the moon, who was filming him from outside the shuttle? There is no wind on the moon, so why did the flag moved? Why was there no stars on the moon? Why was there no dust perturbation underneath the shuttle? The odd details are legion!!! With all the modern technology of today NASA hasn’t managed to go to the moon, and they were successful with the 60s vintage tech??? Are you joking????
    🤡. 🤡. 🤡

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      Sum TIng Wong

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      I remember as a 11-year old kid watching Neil Armstrong come down the LM ladder to the “moon” surface. I said, “Who’s holding the camera?” My mom told me to shut up. Gotta love all those intersecting shadows, too. Not possible with a sunlit scene. I wish we had the battery technology they had back then, too. They managed to keep the LM interior cool in 250-degreeF outside temp to 72-degrees inside on just a few batteries. Bring back that amazing 60s technology!

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        T. C. Clark

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        There were like 6 or 8 men who walked on the moon…had the rover vehicle to drive on the moon. There was a problem where “something went wrong” on one moon walk….the astronaut lost the tube inside that provided liquid to drink…not gator aide…and the liquid leaked inside his suit…he continued to work and became dehydrated…years after …I think he was about 63 …he had a fatal heart attack. It was speculated that since he had a known slight heart problem but was allowed to be an astronaut…that heart problem plus the moon walk w/o water may have contributed to his death.

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      T. C. Clark

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      Are you like…13 years old….and like yo play computer games?

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        denis dombas

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        Anybody that still believes people were on the Moon need their heads examined !

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    Mario M

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    I wonder why PS makes publicity to the biggest fake in history.

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      T. C. Clark

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      Mario, weren’t you once in a computer game?….you have 2 fellow players above.

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    Heretic Jones

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    Wish this comment forum allows posting pics and vids. There’s a recent vid of Aldrin being asked what was the scariest part of the lunar trip. He flat out said the scariest part was that they didn’t go! Point blank says it!

    That’s why you people who think humans went to the moon are clinically retarded. On the one hand, there is absolutely no evidence that we went – nasa themselves say they lost all that tech, they can’t get past Van Halen radiation, and they’ve not been beyond low orbit.

    On the other hand there are many photographic, analyses that show the landings were faked, the moon rock turned out to be fake, and many public admissions from those involved that it was fake.

    Unless you’re truly retarded, what would compel you to think humans went to the moon? We lost that technology ha ha! Here, let me make a phone call to the moon ha ha!

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      aaron

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      post links H J
      would like to see em

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    T. C. Clark

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    Another one….”Van Halen” belt….HAHAHAHA….what happens when you bump into the “Van Halen” belt?….do you rock and roll off it?

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      Mr. Crabs

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      Hey Clark why are you so gullible? You actually believe that Ass-Tro-Nots walked on the Moon? What you just believe anything your ever loving government tells you?
      Guess what Clark? That same “government” tells you that global warming is a fact. Tells you that the corona virus scam is real and that the jabs are safe and effective. Do you believe that too?
      Same government puts poisonous fluoride in the water, starts countless wars, planned, executed and covered up 9/11, assassinated JFK, MLK, RFK, John Lennon, Malcomn X and others that actually brought people together and asked questions. That same “government” also put a gay man and his tranny “wife” Micheal into the Presidency and pretended it was a normal couple with 2 kids. Same trash heap, lying, owned and tyrannical “government” allows the Federal Reserve to bankrupt all the citizens of the USA even though it is against the constitution.
      You are going to trust that clown show of a “government” to tell you the truth about a Moon landing in 1969?
      Oh, they lie a lot but they would never lie about that Moon deal. Yeah right. R I G H T!
      Oh and the Moon cannot be gone too because it’s not a rock in space. It’s a luminary and cannot be landed on.
      Pay attention, you might just learn something meat.

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        T. C. Clark

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        I regard the man on the moon as a quick pass/fail IQ test – you failed.

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          Mr. Crabs

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          So do I fan boy. In my opinion you failed. You seem like the kind of person that likes to watch old episodes of Nova. Kind of person that believes verbatim anyone with a proper British accent and a white coat?
          Can’t quite get it into your head that most science is just plain lies. No black holes, quasars, galaxies, no nuke furnace suns floating in space, no planets, no pulsars, no gravity, no asteroids, no space. Just a flat earth, covered by a firmament with a local sun and moon that are simply light sources. The stars at night, whatever they are, are not distant suns.
          Maybe if you actually did some real research there Clark. You know, like check for non-existent curvature. Ask questions….. it’s OK Fan boy.
          Ask yourself this Clark, how exactly did a 300 foot tall Saturn 5 rocket that used every last drop of fuel just get out of the fake globe earth atmosphere, manage to continue on 230,000 miles to the “Moon”, orbit, disembark a lander, have that lander safely land on the “Moon”, then blast off, link up with the command module and then travel back another 230,000 miles to earth, orbit and then safely splash down all with no more fuel and 1969 lead acid battery technology?
          Kind of hard to do eh Clark?
          Do you even think? Or do you just blindly and obediently believe the lies of those that enslave you? It’s embarrassing and pathetic to even attempt to respond to closed minded, ignorant sheep like you.

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            Howdy

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            Mr Crabs,
            Your belief comes from the Bible, which also states:
            Gen 1:17
            God placed them in space to shine on the earth
            You claim space does not exist.
            Hebrews 11:3 ESV
            By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.
            Under your belief, the universe cannot exist.
            2 Peter 3:10 ESV
            But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved,
            Heavenly bodies, not luminaries.

            Bible also states a square Earth…
            Your own belief is confounded by the very book you believe in.

            Either debunk the above with truth, (which you cannot), or give it a rest!

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    John V

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    It sure didn’t take long for the flat earthers and the “we didn’t land on the moon” groupies to jump out of the woodwork lol

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      Charles Chips

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      Didn’t take long for the mindless news parrots / believers who couldn’t critically think their way out of a soggy wet paper bag to bleet out more really ignorant glop.

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    Mr. Crabs

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    I would reply to Howdy, but there was no reply below the comment that Howdy made.
    The Bible says a lot of things about the earth. It says that God made a greater light to rule the day and a lesser light to rule the night. It talks about how the earth is immovable and set on pillars. It talks about the 4 corners of the earth. It does not say anything about a tilted spinning globe. The Universe could be the earth, Moon, Sun, firmament and the heavens which would include the stars. The Bible says much, but unfortunately it does not give concrete answers about how exactly the earth is constructed. More information is available in the Book of Enoch as well.
    It’s science and man that talks about light years, black holes, space, planets, a globe and stars being distant suns, etc. And all of that is UN-proven beyond what NASA tells the sheeple.
    Why should I give it a rest? Why because you and others want to believe in a globe and missions to the Moon? I don’t agree with that at all and I never will. Unlike many people who post here, I have actually gone out into the world and conducted visual experiments trying to observe the earth’s supposed curvature based on the model that science presents. Have you done that? Have you questioned why an individual standing at the poles enduring a near motion-less pirouette at the speed of a revolution per day would feel no different than an individual standing sideways on the equator enduring a 1,000 MPH tip speed? How exactly does “gravity” compensate for that massive and beyond comprehension difference in force? Have you asked yourself why the constellations never change despite the supposed universe expanding outward from the big bang hoax at speeds of over 500,000 miles per hour? Or how one can see the big dipper year round when it should not be in view for at least a few months of the year due to the orbit of the earth and the position of the Sun?
    Have you ever thought about the fact that water always finds it’s level no matter what? How is it that it curves and sticks to a ball? Have you ever observed that in nature? In practice?
    If you and others would actually use your minds and go out and do experiments that anyone can do, you might just start questioning the lies that keep you enslaved. You might even wake up and see that the earth, without a doubt is flat. It really is. Look into it. I used to think like many folks on here. Just blindly believing what Science told me. I believed in the Moon landings, the globe and space. But about 7 years ago, I started looking into all of this nonsense and it took at least 6 months of deep research, experiments, old books, observations, more experiments and more research. Now I cannot UN-see what I now believe. But by all means, believe what you want. You are just as allowed to believe in the globe as I am to question it.

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      Howdy

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      Yes Mr Crabs, I guess it was a tall order.

      Nobody mentioned the globe except you. I suggest you brought the globe into it as a diversion.

      “It talks about how the earth is immovable and set on pillars”
      It also says the Earth hangs on nothing.

      “The Bible says much, but unfortunately it does not give concrete answers about how exactly the earth is constructed.”
      OK, so your arguments are pointless by your own admission.

      “If you and others would actually use your minds and go out and do experiments that anyone can do, you might just start questioning the lies that keep you enslaved.”
      Done that, and so have others. You and your ilk flatly deny, or come up with some nonsense that the experiment is fixed/fake. It is proven that bodies of water are curved using lasers and helicopter. what was the response from the flat earthers? The laser was moved, the helicopter is magic.. I kid you not.
      I saw with my own eyes, yet of course, my eyes are wrong.
      You are the enslaved, and to something you admit above, is not concrete! Why stake your reputation on something you openly admit may not be true?

      “It does not say anything about a tilted spinning globe”
      Job 26:10 He laid out the horizon on the surface of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness.
      The Bible describes the terminator. This can only apply to a sphere:

      Read this:
      https://biblicalscienceinstitute.com/apologetics/is-the-earth-really-round/

      Unfortunately you didn’t debunk my answer, nor can you, for you will deny your own beliefs, your own ego.
      If you cannot unsee what you have seen then what hope is there for you, except to become stale of mind and drift into irrelevance?

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    Mr. Crabs

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    Howdy is the self appointed globe police. Can’t keep the pie hole shut when someone challenges the Global lie or the Moon landing hoax.
    Social Justice warrior for space the final frontier!
    Golf clap.

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      Howdy

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      I specifically asked you to answer with truth because I knew you were incapable of such a thing. You dare not speak it
      You are an empty vessel. You and the rest of your crew project at everybody who challenges you. That means everything you direct at another is a description of yourself.

      You’re easy.

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        Mr. Crabs

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        Unfortunately, I’ve read your tired tripe on here many times before. You are incapable of debate. All you have is nonsense, insults and judgement.
        Like I said Social Justice warrior for space and lies.

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    Mr. Crabs

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    Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.
    I find it strange that so many people post comments here in blind defense of established stories of Moon landings and space travel.
    This is a website that specifically questions the lies of Global Warming and the Covid scamdemic. A system that has tricked almost the entire world into wearing masks, standing 6 feet a part, and taking deadly jabs for ……..NOTHING. A corrupt international system acting in Rockefeller Lockstep to cage and imprison the masses over insane policies of CO2 mitigation and now excess Nitrogen fears.
    The precedent has been clearly set for anyone with eyes to see, ears to hear and a functioning mind to think. Yet so many people remain willfully ignorant and cling to the lies that have been thrust upon them.
    I could see it if this was a website that questioned nothing and parroted everything like so many others.
    Yet the same sheep flock here and insist that most things are exactly as they have been established by the liars that rule over them. It sure appears that most people just steadfastly refuse to question much of anything at all.
    They like the idea of space. They want to believe in Moon landings. It must keep their reality in balance and safe. Perhaps the idea that everything they think they “know” is a lie is just too terrifying to accept.
    So they ridicule those that can think for themselves. Just like all the know it alls that are now jabbed and still wearing masks. Why question things? Just put your trust in the den of thieves, liars, scoundrels, pedophiles, and demonic minions that have turned everything in this world upside down.

    Humanity faces 2 massive challenges:
    One is the evil sell out scum that enslaves it non-stop.
    Two is the masses of mindless, obedient sheep that would gladly die to serve their evil masters without question.

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      T. C. Clark

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      All humans are born ignorant….some always remain ignorant….we are always one generation away from the ignorant sinking us all.

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    Jerry Krause

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    Hi PSI Readers,

    Mr. Crabs just Wrote:: “Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.” He should know for I have read that Albert Einstein stated: “The only source of knowledge is experience.”

    Have a good day, Jerry.

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      Howdy

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      To be fair to Mr crabs, he:
      “started looking into all of this nonsense and it took at least 6 months of deep research, experiments, old books, observations, more experiments and more research.”….

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        Jerry Krause

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        Hi Howdy,

        Do you not know that some drugs are addictive?

        Have a good day, Jerry

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          Howdy

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          Against my better judgement, I’ll respond. Yes Jerry, I know some drugs are addictive. I also know some drugs need to be weaned off, not because of addiction, but because of the negative side effects of stopping the medication.

          What has that to do with anything?

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            Jerry Krause

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            Hi Aaron,

            Your reply seems to indicate that zeither the addictive behavior has no “negative side effects” or the “negative side effects” upon the addict is more important than the addictive behavior of the addict is upon SOCIETY.

            Have a good day, Jerry

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            Howdy

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            Who are you addressing Jerry? About what? You appear to be confused.

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            Jerry Krause

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            Hi Howdy,

            You are right, I was confused. Sorry I confused you so you could not figure out that I was referring to your comment of
            September 8, 2022 at 4:18 pm.

            Have a good day, Jerry

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            Howdy

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            I realized you had Jerry, but you have still gone on a tangent about drug addiction.
            You asked me if I knew they were addictive, where I answered yes, but then you commented on societal issues of an addict. None of this is related to the original thread.

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            Jerry Krause

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            Hi Howdy,

            Read the article and my original comment, You just wrote (9/9/2022 at 5:13am): “None of this is related to the original thread.” So tell me and PSI Readers what was the ‘original thread.” Your first comment was about what has beeb written in The Holy Bible. Not that this was wrong, but it hard to find how it is related to what Klaus and I originally wrote.

            Have a good day, Jerry

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            Howdy

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            Actually Jerry, T.C. Clarke started this thread, and Mr Crabs replied and brought the Bible into it when he mentioned the firmament.

            Klaus has no involvement other than the article, and you joined in after Mr Crabs commented: “Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.”
            Thereafter, you went on a tangent about drugs.

            https://principia-scientific.com/the-man-in-the-moon/#comment-77469
            Original thread is linked above, and is the one Mr Crabs and myself, including T,C, were involved in, not the opening thread that you started, and as you believe I refer to.

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            Jerry Krause

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            Hi PSI Readers,

            Howdy wrote: “Actually Jerry, T.C. Clarke started this thread, and Mr Crabs replied and brought the Bible into it when he mentioned the firmament.” (September 9, 2022 at 10:10 pm). Just after Howdy had written me: “None of this is related to the original thread.” (September 9, 2022 at 5:13 am). To which I replied: “So tell me and PSI Readers what was the ‘original thread.” (September 9, 2022 at 3:25 pm). Now Howdy tells me: “Actually Jerry, T.C. Clarke started this thread, and Mr Crabs replied and brought the Bible into it when he mentioned the firmament. Klaus has no involvement other than the article”.(September 9, 2022 at 10:10 pm)

            I write this because I was gullible. So now I know the names of these players who mess up serious websites like PSI. Howdy, T.C. Clark, Mr Crabs, the last rebel, Aaron, Luis.

            I will no longer read a word they write and therefore I can never respond to what they have written. Its that simple.

            Have a good day, Jerry

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            Howdy

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            “Against my better judgement, I’ll respond.”
            Aye, same old routine was the expected outcome

            You the ‘messing up’ main man Jerry!

            I guess we done here.

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            Jerry Krause

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            Hi PSI Readers,

            I’m adding Kevin Doyle to my list.

            Have a good day, Jerry

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            T. C. Clark

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            Actually, Howdy Doody, I did not start any thread….I simply responded to the no moon landing flat earth kiddies.

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            Howdy

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            Since you are not aware TC, every time you make a standalone comment, whether you expect replies or not, you invite responses that build into a thread, therefore you are the thread starter, while replies to an existing line of replies simply extends an existing thread.

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    The Last Rebel

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    It’s so hard to get to the moon 🌙 we haven’t been there yet

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    Kevin Doyle

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    Dr. Klaus Kaiser,
    Your article was pointless and difficult to follow.
    Was this the product of scientifically distilled thought, or distilled spirits?

    Utter stupidity!

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