More lies about Greenland Temperatures
The website Ecowatch recently published more lies about Greenland, this time claiming it rained for the first time evah at the National Science Foundation’s Summit Station.
The article states:
This past weekend, researchers at the National Science Foundation’s Summit Station (seen above) observed rainfall at the peak of Greenland’s rapidly melting ice sheet for the first time on record — an event driven by warming temperatures.
First of all, just because there is no modern record of rain there, does not mean it has never happened before.
During the Medieval Warm Period, when the Vikings had their colony at Hvalsey in the south of the island, above-zero temperatures at the summit probably did happen.
The name Greenland is a corruption of the Viking name for it; Grunland. They would not have called it ‘green’ unless there was little snow and ice. Archeologists have identified the ruins of approximately 600 farms on Greenland of Viking age.
“This was the third time in less than a decade, and the latest date in the year on record, that the National Science Foundation’s Summit Station had above-freezing temperatures and wet snow,” the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) said in a press release earlier this week. “There is no previous report of rainfall at this location (72.58°N 38.46°W), which reaches 3,216 meters (10,551 feet) in elevation.”
Temperatures at the summit of the ice sheet rose above freezing at around 5:00 am local time on Saturday, “and the rain event began at the same time,” NSIDC noted. “For the next several hours, rain fell and water droplets were seen on surfaces near the camp as reported by on-station observers.”
I found this rather unlikely, so I looked at the Danish Meteorological Institute’s Polar Portal website, and scrolled the interrogation bar back to August 14th, and low and behold, the temperature at the Summit Station was clearly shown as -13.89C, as in the image below I saved.
Image: Danish Meteorological Institute
I find it hard to beleve rain could fall in an air temperature of -13C.
The anomalous rainfall at the ice sheet’s peak marked the start of a three-day period during which “above-freezing temperatures and rainfall were widespread to the south and west of Greenland… with exceptional readings from several remote weather stations in the area,” said NSIDC. “Total rainfall on the ice sheet was 7 billion tons.”
August is in the summer melt season on Greenland, so around the south and west of the island we expect, and see, temperatures above zero and probably rain as well. This is perfectly normal, but Ecowatch portrayed it as being most unusual.
The warmer-than-usual temperatures caused significant melting of the ice sheet, with melt extent peaking at 337,000 square miles on August 14.
“Warm conditions and the late-season timing of the three-day melt event coupled with the rainfall led to both high melting and high runoff volumes to the ocean,” NSIDC observed. “On August 15 2021, the surface mass lost was seven times above the mid-August average… At this point in the season, large areas of bare ice exist along much of the southwestern and northern coastal areas, with no ability to absorb the melt or rainfall. Therefore, the accumulated water on the surface flows downhill and eventually into the ocean.”
Again, this is quite normal for August on Greenland, so why make it sound abnormal?
Ted Scambos, a senior research scientist at the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences at the University of Colorado at Boulder, told The Washington Post on Thursday that while the three-day melting event “by itself does not have a huge impact,” it is “indicative of the increasing extent, duration, and intensity of melting on Greenland.”
“Like the heat wave in the [U.S. Pacific] northwest, it’s something that’s hard to imagine without the influence of global climate change,” said Scambos. “Greenland, like the rest of the world, is changing. We now see three melting events in a decade in Greenland — and before 1990, that happened about once every 150 years. And now rainfall: in an area where rain never fell.”
It may be hard for Mr Scambos to ‘imagine’ this weather as normal, but it is. He states melting on Greenland only happened about every 150 years, so are we to assume he is another who thinks the Medieval Warm Period never happened, and the Vikings under Erik the Red established what became a thriving colony in sub-zero temperatures?
We know from the Old Norse Sagas the colony was established in 985AD, and estimates from archaeological evidence suggests the population grew to around 5000 by the time it was finally abandoned around 1450 due to the onset of the Little Ice Age.
In a landmark report released earlier this month, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concluded that “it is very likely that human influence has contributed to the observed surface melting of the Greenland ice sheet over the past two decades.”
It is very likely is not proof, it is an assumption.
In July — which the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration recently deemed the hottest month ever recorded on Earth — a heat wave in Greenland caused enough melting to cover the entire state of Florida with two inches of water.
“What is going on is not simply a warm decade or two in a wandering climate pattern,” Scambos told CNN in response to the rainfall at the ice sheet’s summit. “This is unprecedented.”
As far as I can see, the only thing that is unprecendented is the scale of the lies being told.
If I can discover the truth of these claims in about five minutes, why did Ecowatch not do the same, and then publish an article showing the truth instead of continuing to promote fearmongering and lies?
See more here:ecowatch.com
Header image: National Science Foundation
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Howdy
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If It rained like was reported, where is the image of the station after the occurrence? I expect to see evidence of the drips from the station.
Where are the runoff channels eroded into the ice from the “high runoff volumes”?
Sounds made up.
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Andy
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It undoubtedly is made-up.
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slandermen
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Hilariously, in physics we call that extra worthless shit “convolution” it’s used in finding means. Lol.
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slandermen
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For instance, when you want to lie with statistics, you use convolution to hide the means and tiny, irrelevant results as basically your differentiation.
That’s how you can ignore everything of the earth and atmosphere except co2 with respect to “warming”, and with viruses, pretty much very similarly ignoring every physical effect ever and misattributing results to new made up shit. It’s kinda scientific hey.
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Michael Clarke
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Indeed some pictorial evidence is needed to back up this, otherwise it is fake news.
Regards Michael Logician.
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Barry
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Good as usual Andy, thanks. It’s amazing that now they just tell outright lies rather than even try to skew details. I think some realize the ship is sinking.
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slandermen
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The titanic sort of ship, would be the world, right?
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Andy
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Thanks Barry 🙂
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Andy and PSI Readers,
As a reply to Howdy’s comment you wrote: “It undoubtedly is made-up.”
However, in your article you wrote: “August is in the summer melt season on Greenland, so around the south and west of the island we expect, and see, temperatures above zero and probably rain as well. This is perfectly normal, but Ecowatch portrayed it as being most unusual.”
It took me some time to finally see that you moved from the SUMMIT of the island to ‘SEA LEVEL’ around the island.
In my favorite reference book of METEOROLOGY (Weather and Climate by R. C. Sutcliffe) I read: “If the temperature is below freezing-point the particles will freeze and if it rises again above freezing-point they will melt but otherwise there is no essential difference, or so it might quite erroneously be imagined. The first fallacy is to assume that water naturally freezes at temperatures below the freezing-point, an assumption which is so unfounded as to cause some punctilious physicists to REFUSE use the term ‘freezing-point. … “
However, in the article you wrote: “I find it hard to beleve rain could fall in an air temperature of -13C.” However, I understand that these super-cooled droplets of precipitin would nearly immediately freeze upon striking the snow surface.
The surface temperature of melting snow can never be above the MELTING-POINT of snow (ice). And in the spring it is easy to see solar radiation MELTING the snow at the snow’s surface. You might argue this melting occurs be the air temperature measured about 1.5 meter above the snow’s surfaces can be several degrees above the melting-point of ice. However, in the afternoon I have seen the surface liquid water begin to freeze while the measured air temperature is still above the melting-point. Evidence that the air in contact with this surface is at melting-point, or maybe a little lower as the surface emits more radiation (energy) then the solar radiation (energy) it is absorbing.
Have a good day, Jerry
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Andy
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Hi Jerry, I didn’t include about how and when water can be liquid below freezing, as I felt it would needlesly complicate the article.
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Andy,
You now wrote: ” I didn’t include about how and when water can be liquid below freezing, as I felt it would needlesly complicate the article.” While in the article you had written: “I find it hard to believe rain could fall in an air temperature of -13C.”
In 1638 Louis Elzevir, in his Preface to Galileo’s book, had written, as translated by Crew and de Salvio to the English language: “Intuitive knowledge keeps pace with accurate definition.”
So, BY NOT ACCURATELY DEFINING (DESCRIBING0 WHAT IS COMMONLY OBSERVED, you must confuse any PSI READER!!!
Cumulus Clouds”. Detached clouds, generally dense and with sharp outlines, developing vertically in the form of rising mounds, domes or towers. (Sutcliffe). Any time the rising mounds, domes, or towers rise into the upper atmosphere whose temperature is less than 0C (32F) the water droplets become supercooled as explained by Sutcliffe.
Hence, while freezing rain that reaches the surface and then freezes, but cumulus clouds that rise into atmosphere’s whose temperatures become significantly lower than 0C and become supercooled are common.
Have a good day, Jerry
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WhoKoo
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Wikipedia
Water normally freezes at 273.15 K (0 °C or 32 °F), but it can be “supercooled” at standard pressure down to its crystal homogeneous nucleation at almost 224.8 K (−48.3 °C/−55 °F).[5][6] The process of supercooling requires that water be pure and free of nucleation sites, which can be achieved by processes like reverse osmosis or chemical demineralization, but the cooling itself does not require any specialised technique.
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Herb Rose
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Hi WhoKoo,
Those supercooled water droplets in the clouds are also able to reflect heat back to the Earth making cloudy nights warmer than clear nights.
Jerry reads, he doesn’t think.
Herb
WhoKoo
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Hi Herb. I am still quite traumatized by the comments we have all endured of late. Half expecting Frank to leap out from behind a rock.
Interesting comment at the bottom of referenced article suggesting correlation between solar mass ejection and typhoon genesis.
https://electroverse.net/ipcc-atlantic-hurricanes-tropical-cyclones-have-not-increased-since-the-late-1800s/
Fits with my views on tornadoes, at least partially, being an electric motor. plasma driven.
Herb Rose
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Hi WhoKoo,
Could well be. Have you read Dr. Gerald Pollack’s book “The Fourth Phase of Water”? In it he postulates that when water absorbs infrared radiation it splits into hydroxyl and hydronium ions form a liquid crystal and storing it as electric energy. The negative charge of the crystal shell causes it to rise to the top of the troposphere where that electrical energy is released.
Herb
WhoKoo
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Hi Herb.
I have followed yours, James, and Jerry’s discussions on it. I am aware approx. 80% cosmic rays are protons and earth -sun relationships which with satellites is only 20 year old science.
Jerry Krause
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Hi WhoKoo and Herb,
Good comments!!! Keep it going!!!
Have a good day, Jerry
Michael Clarke
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Hi Jerry and PSI readers,
May I refer you to a phenonium known as ‘Freezing Rain’.
A weather event not with-out precedent, but quite rare in the UK.
It rains really large drops of water which as they hit the ground instantly freeze, even retaining the rain drop splash shape with a central peak!
Now it is over 40 years since I lived in the U so cannot remember when the last freezing rain event occurred, but occur they do!
Regards Michael Logician.
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Jacque
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I have lived in the Kansas Missouri southern corner most of my life and I can assure you that freezing rain does occur
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Michael Clarke
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Hi Jerry and PSI readers,
‘Freezing Rain’ is an interesting phenonium, just how it odours and the conditions for it to occur are quite rare.
I do know of it occurring in other contraries, but have not experienced it outside of the UK.
As I remember it my car was covered in a pebble dash finish of frozen rain, definitely not frozen snow.
Now as previously mentioned the rain drops are rather large. This implies a considerable depth of cloud through which the precipitation had time to grow large.
The next point is the terminal speed at which it imp[acts the telephone and electricity wires freezing and bringing them down due to the weight of those frozen drops.
Then there is the wind speed as if to high that would also drive off any drops that hit those telephone and electricity cables, so it has to be low.
Then the is the Air temperature to consider. It has to be below freezing at ground level yet above freezing in the air mass supporting those clouds with quite a distinct separation.
Have I left anything out?
Regards Michael Logician.
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Control Rat
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Please consider that this is all woven together … The Deep State wants to blame all of us for an imaginary temperature rise and they will do anything to push that down our throats so they can destroy our economy and freedom, (or as they have said … you will own nothing and be happy!!!)
In order to force their agenda on us they WILL lie and please check out this site because if lies don’t work they’ll spray us with toxic chemicals
https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/
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Kelvin Duncan
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I remember seeing a movie about a northern Greenland met station which had a tunnel down below the permafrost. They were collecting ice cores. The funny thing was at the surface of the soil below the ice layer there was a tangle of tree roots and stems. The commentator did not make any mention of this strange phenomenon.
Is it true that there were trees growing there once? I also recall reports of Greenlanders using timber for various purposes. Did they dig it up? Or were trees actually growing during the Medieval Warm Period?
I can’t find the video or the report of timber usage by Greenlanders. Can anyone help please?
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Kelvin Duncan
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I forgot to mention that it sometimes rains in parts of Antarctica, or at least it did when I was there. Antarctica is a lot colder than Greenland.
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Karma Singh
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I have, once, experienced freezing rain (in Germany). Fortunately, I wasn’t out in it but had to drive through the effects.
As it was explained to me, snow begins to fall and then meets a current of warm air passing across the terrain which melts it. As the (now) water drops speed up as they approach the ground, they meet very cold surface air over very cold ground. In the last few metres, they coagulate and form solid ice over trees, electricity cable and the like. The weight of ice is sufficient to break many young trees and to bring down power lines.
In these circumstances, one can legitimately say that it has rained even ‘though no rain has reached the ground. I would be hard put to believe that there has never been a warm air current drifting across Greenland – in fact, metrological theory would collapse into tatters were such a claim to be verified.
Blessed be
Karma Singh
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