Warning against vaccinating people who had COVID
Scientists warn vaccinating people who already COVID could potentially cause harm, or even death.
Since the first COVID-19 vaccine received Emergency Use Authorization in the U.S., some physicians and scientists have challenged the recommendation by U.S. health agencies that people who have already had COVID and as a result acquired natural immunity still get the vaccine.
Some experts say the science to support vaccinating those primed with COVID doesn’t exist and there’s a potential risk of harm, including death, in vaccinating those who’ve already had the disease or were recently infected.
In December 2020, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices issued a report authored by 15 scientists that falsely claimed a Pfizer study proved the vaccine was highly effective or showed “Consistent high efficacy” for people who’d already had coronavirus — “SARS-CoV 2.”
Award-winning scientist and Congressman Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) called out the CDC when he found that vaccine studies showed no benefit to people who had coronavirus and that getting vaccinated didn’t change their odds of getting reinfected.
The CDC claimed “the COVID vaccine would save your life or save you from suffering, even if you’ve already had the virus and recovered, which has not been demonstrated in either the Pfizer or Moderna trials,” Massie said in an interview with Full Measure.
Massie contacted officials at the CDC about the misinformation. They acknowledged it was false, but instead of correcting it, tried to rephrase their mistake. Massie and other scientists said the new wording still wrongly implies vaccines work in people who previously had COVID.
“And instead of fixing it, they proposed repeating it and just phrasing their mistake differently. So, at that point, right now I consider it a lie. I think the CDC is lying about the efficacy of the vaccine based on the Pfizer trials, for those who have already had the coronavirus,” Massie said.
The CDC recommends people get vaccinated even if they’ve already had COVID, as experts do not know how long “you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID, and it is possible — although rare — that you could be infected with the virus that causes COVID again.”
On Feb. 23, Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), published a blog post stating that people who’ve had COVID still needed the vaccine, while referencing a study that suggested they didn’t.
Citing a pre-print published on medRxiv, Collins wrote that the immune response to the first vaccine dose in a person who’s already had COVID is equal to, or in some cases better, than the response to the second dose in a person who hasn’t had COVID. He said the “results raise the possibility that one dose might be enough for someone who’s been infected with SARS-CoV-2 and already generated antibodies against the virus.”
Yet, Collins made the case that people who have already had COVID would have a robust antibody response when later exposed to the virus — whether that’s through natural exposure or via the spike protein from a COVID vaccine.
To better understand immune memory of SARS-CoV-2, researchers led by Drs. Daniela Weiskopf, Alessandro Sette and Shane Crotty from the La Jolla Institute for Immunology analyzed immune cells and antibodies from nearly 200 people who had been exposed to COVID and recovered.
The results, published in Science, showed the immune systems of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID had durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection. Previous studies showed that natural infection induced a strong response, but this study showed that response lasted, Weiskoph said.
Another study in Nature assessed the lasting immunogenic effect of T-cell reactivity to SARS and SARS-2. Data showed that natural immunity was very robust — and likely more robust than any immunity derived from a vaccine.
Increased risk of vaccine injury in those with previous infection
On March 19, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued an emergency authorization for a new test to detect COVID infections — one that stands apart from the hundreds already authorized, reported STAT.
Developed by Seattle-based Adaptive Biotechnologies in partnership with Microsoft, the new test, called T-Detect COVID, looks for signals of past infections in the body’s adaptive immune system — specifically, the T cells that help the body remember what its viral enemies look like.
Adaptive’s approach involves mapping antigens to their matching receptors on the surface of T cells, which would help scientists unlock information to help diagnose past COVID infections.
Dr. Dara Udo, urgent and immediate care physician at Westchester Medical Group, received the COVID vaccine a year after having the disease and had a very strong immune response very similar to what she experienced while having COVID.
In an opinion piece published by The Hill, Udo explained that infection from any organism, including COVID, activates several different arms of the immune system, some in more robust ways than others and that this underlying activation due to infection or exposure, combined with a vaccination, could lead to overstimulation of the immune response.
Udo thought this might explain the symptoms she had, as well as her frontline colleagues who had high rates of COVID antibodies (known as seroprevalence) prior to becoming vaccinated.
“For high-risk, vulnerable groups, emerging data suggest that seroprevalence of COVID-19 infection is likely higher than tested and reported. Therefore, a natural question arises of whether there may be a smarter way to administer the vaccines in high seroprevalent groups,” Udo wrote.
Udo called for an intentional, well-planned approach to avoid eliciting adverse immune responses in those who had COVID and subsequently get vaccinated.
Udo suggested a person already “COVID-primed” may be better off with a one-dose rather than a two-dose vaccine, or that the vaccine administered should be dependent on whether the person already had COVID. For example, someone who is “COVID-naive” might do better with a vaccine like Pfizer or Moderna, while the COVID-primed might need a less robust immune response from the one-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
In order to implement this protocol, rigorous, effective and efficient antibody prescreening tools to identify these individuals would be required, Udo said.
Dr. Hooman Noorchashm, an accomplished surgeon, patient safety advocate and staunch supporter of the new COVID vaccines, has written several letters to the FDA urging the agency to require pre-screening for SARS-CoV-2 viral proteins in order to reduce COVID vaccine injuries and deaths.
According to Noorchasm, it is scientifically established that once a person is naturally infected by a virus, antigens from that virus persist in the body for a long time after viral replication has stopped and clinical signs of infection have resolved. When a vaccine reactivates an immune response in a recently infected person, the tissues harboring the persisting viral antigen are targeted, inflamed and damaged by the immune response.
“In the case of SARS-CoV-2, we know that the virus naturally infects the heart, the inner lining of blood vessels, the lungs and the brain,” explained Noorchasm. “So, these are likely to be some of the critical organs that will contain persistent viral antigens in the recently infected — and, following reactivation of the immune system by a vaccine, these tissues can be expected to be targeted and damaged.”
Colleen Kelley is an associate professor of infectious diseases at Emory University School of Medicine and principal investigator for Moderna and Novavax phase 3 vaccine clinical trials in Atlanta. In an interview with Huffington Post, Kelley said there have been reported cases in which those who previously had the virus endured harsher side effects after they received their vaccines.
“Anecdotally, it does appear that people who may have had COVID-19 before their vaccine do tend to have those longer duration of symptoms,” Kelley added. “But we’re still gathering additional scientific data to really support this.”
In a public submission to the FDA, J. Patrick Whelan M.D. Ph.D., expressed similar concern that COVID vaccines aimed at creating immunity against the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein could have the potential to cause microvascular injury to the brain, heart, liver and kidneys in a way that does not currently appear to be assessed in safety trials of these potential drugs.
Based on several studies, Whelan said it appeared that the viral spike protein in the SARS-CoV02 vaccines is also one of the key agents causing damage to distant organs that may include the brain, heart, lung and kidney.
“Before any of these vaccines are approved for widespread use in humans, it is important to assess in vaccinated subjects the effects of vaccination on the heart,” wrote Whelan. “As important as it is to quickly arrest the spread of the virus by immunizing the population, it would be vastly worse if hundreds of millions of people were to suffer long-lasting or even permanent damage to their brain or heart microvasculature as a result of failing to appreciate in the short-term an unintended effect of full-length spike protein-based vaccines on these other organs.”
At the very minimum, Noorchasm said in a letter to FDA officials, “Pfizer and Moderna should institute clear recommendations to clinicians that they delay immunization in any recently convalescent patients, as well as, any known symptomatic or asymptomatic carriers — and to actively screen as many patients with high cardiovascular risk as is reasonably possible, in order to detect the presence of SARS-CoV-2, prior to vaccinating them.”
On March 19, 32-year-old Benjamin Goodman died after receiving Johnson & Johnson’s experimental COVID vaccine. According to a Facebook post by his step-mother, Goodman knew his family’s difficult history with vaccines but got vaccinated at a pop-up vaccine site at a local Walgreen’s because people were pushing the travel pass.
Goodman felt ill, experienced a headache, woke up with a fever and chills at 1 a.m., went into cardiac arrest at 4 a.m. and was declared dead two hours later. Like many others, Goodman had not been tested to see if he had previously had COVID or was recently infected.
Noorchasm sent a third communication to the FDA warning that deaths like Goodman’s could have been prevented, and that there will be more deaths unless people are screened before being vaccinated. As The Defender reported earlier this month, Noorchashm believes that a #ScreenB4Vaccine campaign could save millions from vaccine injuries.
“We are deploying this defensive weapon [the COVID vaccine] wildly indiscriminately in the midst of a pandemic outbreak, while many are ‘the recently infected.’ It is my professional opinion as an immunologist and physician that this indiscriminate vaccination is a clear and present danger to a subset of the already infected,” Noorchasm told The Defender.
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Charles Higley
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” as experts do not know how long “you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID, and it is possible — although rare — that you could be infected with the virus that causes COVID again.”
What a joke. Immunity can last over 50 years. I had the Hong Kong flu in 1968 while in college and a few years ago the flu season hit the young hard but was light on the elderly because we elderly were already immune.
For them to suddenly pretend that immunity might not last long or just a few weeks or months is simply propaganda. In a given flu season, one could contract different viruses of the flu season salad of viruses, but that does not mean that you have the same virus twice. There are two influenzas, rhinoviruses, and several coronaviruses which all cause similar symptoms. One may have one or several during a given illness.
It is simply not possible for your immune system to beat off a virus and then you get infected again shortly thereafter, which suggests that you are immunocompromised, which then suggests that you succumbed and died the first time around. You might run into a different strain of the virus and might have immunity to it or not, depending on how much it has mutated since the first challenge, but mutating that much takes a rather long time.
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Wisenox
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Sounds more like partial neutralization to me. The injected pathogen is a synthetic variant and neutralizing antibodies may be able to attach, but not completely neutralize. So, there is an ADE effect. ADE was a common cause of death in animal studies. The semi-neutralized synthetic pathogens are still pulled into other immune cells, where they become factories for more synthetic pathogens. These cells travel throughout the body, spreading the manufactured illness systemically.
The debate is moot to me in the end. There is no natural covid virus in existence, and therefore no need to genetically mutate yourself in the first place.
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Mark Tapley
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Hello Wisenox:
All of this is just part of the ongoing disinformation campaign in an attempt to give validation to an imaginary pathogen that they cannot purify, isolate nor verify. Massie and all of the rest of the puppet actor politicians are well aware of this but continue the staged presentations just like they did with 911, WMD’s, fake shootings, fake impeachments, fake elections and the recent asinine capitol “riot.”
As you state the experimental techniques of the mRNA-DNA injections have never worked, Nothing big Pharma does is going to help mankind but only cause more disability and death as the livestock are plundered by a medical mafia corrupted long ago.
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Wisenox
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I think that the elites are an anchor to the rest of humanity. They like to claim that their intellectually elite, but they aren’t. They continually grab the geniuses from the commoner population and rush them off to indoctrinate them at young ages. Most of them grow up and enter research and jobs that produce wealth for the elites. If they don’t, then there’s no Nobel, no research money, no jobs. Many of the brilliant ones will have amazing discoveries get put in history books credited to the corporation who now owns the patent instead of them. If humanity spent the productivity and wealth overcoming obstacles, we’d be 100 years into the future. But, the elites have to rig the system, horde higher education to themselves, and militarize everything to stay in power. We would have had the benefits of Tesla’s research decades earlier and might even be growing food in biodomes on the moon. But no. Mankind had to wait until the elites militarized space and finish exploring secret avenues of research that the people are paying for, but never see. Of course, in their ever driving need to stay in power, they have zero compulsion sending you, me, or our families to die in one of their resource grabbing wars for personal wealth. Humanity would be much further along if the elites weren’t involved.
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Mark Tapley
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Hello Wisenox:
Indeed the elite parasites are a drag on the productive elements of society. This has always been the case since the days of Hammerabi and the Pharos. In the past when one kingdom was conquered by another or fell due to internal forces as was the fate of Rome, the elite usually went down with all the rest of society.
As the Zionists are now close to acchieving hegemony on a global scale, their aim is to avoid past mistakes by the implementation of the technocratic total surveillance total control state. A Neo feudal tyranny of permanent austerity and deprivation known as Agenda 2030-21.
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Cogito
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Tapley often has some good comments, but his blind Jew hatred stains his response. He simply cannot be taken seriously.
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Mark Tapley
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Hello Cogito:
Often my comments are misinterpreted as being anti semitic. My reference to the “Zionists” is not aimed specifically at Jews but rather at a select group of elites of many ethnicities that are often referred to as globalists, elites, deep state and other metaphors. However if we trace back to the origins of these elites it is not hard to determine that The term Zionist is the most appropriate description.
In the mid 1800’s Rabbi Moses Hess formulated what is known as “Reform Judaism.” His main disciple was Marx (Moses Mordecai Levy) who was financed by his Uncle the founder of Philips corp. This was a plan for gaining control over the worlds most strategic geographic position (Palestine) as defined by British geographer Alfred Mackinder as the first step in eventual world hegemony or as the foremost journalist of WW2, Douglas Reed termed in his book “The controversy of Zion” as the destruction. of all the countries, to be replaced by a global tyranny,” There is also the widely used psychological tactic of claiming the invasion, occupation and dispersion as a reclamation of their “Homeland’ even though the Khazars have no more connection to the Biblical Jews than the Russians.
The Jews having been very prominent in England since the early 1700’s and much if not most of the British Aristocracy were married in with wealthy Jews as time passed. This led to the ascendency of what are termed the Anglo Zionists. This is a very brief synopsis here but I suggest you read the heavily footnoted “Hidden History,The Secret Origins of WW1” by Jerry Docherty.
The social, political and economic descendants of this group are still moving forward with the original agenda as laid out by Marx (Levy) and successfully initiated by Milner, Edward VII, Rhodes, Grey, Balfour, Chaim Wiseman, Lloyd George, Churchill, Rothschild and others. They were all aware that this conspiracy would not be achieved in their lifetime.
I am sometimes criticized for using the term Jew MSM but it is accurate. All 6 of the major networks in the U.S. are controlled by Zionist Jews. The BBC is full of them also,. The ADL are the official sensors for You (Jew) tube. The main news provider Reuters used to be owned directly by the Rothschilds but is now controlled by the same group through Black Rock. who are also are one of four of the top holders of corporate stock in the U.S. They also are big holders of Chinese companies. They were prime beneficiaries of the “bailout for billionaires” program in 08-09 as were Goldman Sachs that even used a dummy co. in which to dump the derivatives they were hawking. Their front office flunky was puppet actor Obama placed in position originally in Chicago by the Zionist Jew Pritzker family who also have strong ties to puppet actor Trump. Black Rock and their partners at Black Stone will again rake in billions as a result of the long planned fake virus now in play by this same group.
Now lets look at the congress and the puppet presidency. All of Ttrump’s top four donors were Zionist Jews. Trumps daughter and son-in-law are members of the radical Jewish chabad Lubavitch, Trump upon leaving office gave full pardon to Israeli super spy J. Pollard and several other high level crooks that donated large sums to Chabad Lubavitch. Trump issued unconstitutional ex. order to eliminate anti semitic (free speech) on college campuses. I could mention a lot more. The senile self declared Zionist Biden, like Trump has a long history of working only for the Zionist agenda. The fake Republicans and fake Democrat congress are basically obsequious supplicans of aIPAC and none of these shabbas goys in the senate and nary a one in the house will oppose the aPAC (Zionist) agenda. This is just a quick summery leaving out a lot.
I don’t bother with political correctness. It should be obvious to all thinking people that we are now late in the game. The global warming (climate change) issue is a good example of a Zionist long term program. It makes no difference how asinine and unscientific it is. Just like with the fake virus, if these false flags move the herd on toward Agenda 2030-21 that’s all that matters. In fact the more technical debate there is, the more confusion is generated as the debate goes on. so that the overall result is that these scams continue. 90% of the public never analyze anything past cursory observation and remember the Zionists control all of the MSM and most of the alternative as well. I have always been clear that the mass of Jews have nothing to do with any of this but only a few elites just as is the case with the Gentiles.
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