The greenhouse effect dogma contradicts the laws of physics
The idea of ‘man-made climate change’ is described with the hypothesis called the greenhouse effect.
It is the greenhouse effect that describes how increased saturation of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere should increase the temperature at the Earth’s surface.
The greenhouse effect is thus the basis for calling ‘climate change’ man-made. The IPCC’s report from 2013, chapter 1, page 126, “The Physical Science Basis” describes the greenhouse effect as follows:
“The longwave radiation (LWR, also referred to as infrared radiation) emitted from the Earth’s surface is largely absorbed by certain atmospheric constituents—water vapor , carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O) and other greenhouse gases (GHGs); see Annex III for Glossary—and clouds, which themselves emit LWR in all directions.
The downward directed component of this LWR adds heat to the lower layers of the atmosphere and to the Earth’s surface (greenhouse effect).”
It is claimed by the IPCC that downward heat radiation (The downward directed component of this LWR) from the atmosphere adds heat to the lower atmospheric layers and to the Earth’s surface.
This is the basic principle of the greenhouse effect as described by the IPCC. The greenhouse effect is the basic science (The Physical Science Basis) in the IPCC’s computer climate models.
It is indisputable that sunlight is converted into infrared heat (LWR) at the Earth’s surface and that this heat is transferred to the atmosphere.
But the claim that heat is transferred from the atmosphere to the Earth’s surface, where it came from, reveals a misunderstanding of heat as a concept.
The claim is contrary to the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which states that heat transfer always takes place from hot to cold:
“The second law of thermodynamics asserts that heat cannot move from a reservoir of lower temperature to a reservoir of higher temperature in a cyclic process.”
“..a cyclic transformation whose only final result is to transfer heat from a body at a given temperature to a body at a higher temperature is impossible.” (Encyclopaedia Britannica)
A substance cannot heat its own heat source in a cyclic process. You can only heat a substance with a substance that is warmer.
You cannot heat a substance with a substance that is colder.
The Earth’s surface is the atmosphere’s heat source, and is therefore necessarily warmer than the atmosphere.
The atmosphere cools the Earth’s surface because heat is transferred from the Earth’s surface to the atmosphere and not the other way around.
The atmosphere cannot raise the temperature of the earth’s surface further than the temperature given by the light of the sun.
Science’s noblest task is to describe reality, using the laws of physics, mathematics and empiricism.
The greenhouse effect (as described by the IPCC) is not within the limits of what the laws of physics allow.
The greenhouse effect describes a process that cannot take place in reality, and has therefore never been observed experimentally or in the Earth’s atmosphere.
There is no valid justification in the scientific literature for why ‘climate change’ should be man-made.
References:
Nikolov, Zeller et al – Encyclopaedia Britannica – IPCC 2013 “The Physical Science Basis”
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Herb Rose
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Again, someone who thinks that the laws of thermodynamics have to do with heat. Objects due not radiate mass only energy and heat (kinetic energy) is a function of both energy and heat. A better name would be the laws of energydynamics because they deal with the flow of energy and energy flows from higher level to lower level.
Cold heats hot all the time. In the troposphere where the transfer of energy is done by convection. The law of conservation of momentum applies and the object with the greater velocity will transfer energy to the other object regardless of masses.
Temperature is the amount of energy being transferred, not the magnitude (kinetic energy) of the energy. You can burn as much propane as you want but you won’t melt steel because the magnitude of the heat never gets high enough. You can melt steel with less heat with acetylene because the magnitude is greater. If you burn two logs in a fire instead of one the temperature will increase because more heat is being radiated even though both logs are burning at the same temperature.
The law of energy dynamics the GHGT violates is in the belief that since the O2 and N2 in the atmosphere do not absorb visible or infrared radiation they are not absorbing energy radiated by the sun. All matter absorbs radiated energy and the gases are absorbing the UV (over 90%0 and shorter wavelengths emitted by the sun and converting that energy into kinetic energy. This is what heats the atmosphere, not the surface of the Earth and when the high velocity gas molecules strike objects on the Earth they add energy (heat) to it. This is why when there is a solar minimum and fewer solar flares (which produce UV and X-rays) the Earth cools as less heat is being transferred to it by the atmosphere.
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Alan
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More nonsense from Herb.
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Herb Rose
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Hi Alan,
You have two pots of water being heated by the same amount of energy. One pot has more water in it so the energy is distributed to more molecules and each molecule has less energy and is cooler. If you pour the water from the pan with less water onto the pan with more water the energy will flow to all the water molecules raising the energy of the water in the large pan. What if you were adding more energy to pan with more water but not enough to raise the energy of the molecules higher than the other pan? The water in that pan would have more kinetic energy but still gain energy when the water from the other pan was added.
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Matthijs
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Energy radiates in all directions, but heating is only from hot to cold.
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Herb Rose
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Hi Matthijs,
You’ve got it wrong.Energy radiates in all directions but only flows from higher energy to lower energy. All objects radiate energy and that energy decreases with distance. When the energy radiated by one object encounters an energy coming from another object of equal strength, the flow ceases. Energy does not flow uphill. This is called the equalization point which is misleading term since since objects do not equalize energy. The object receiving energy from a source will never achieve equal temperature (amount of energy radiated) or have the same amount of energy as the source. In thermodynamics equalization only means that the energy radiated by an object is the same as the energy absorbed by the object. A better term would be stasis since it only applies to one object and multiple objects can reach stasis even though they have different temperatures and amounts of energy. The Earth and moon are both in stasis with the energy coming from the sun.
Heating involves an object gaining energy (v^2) not the transfer of mass and with convection (collisions) the transfer follows the law of conservation of momentum. (M1V1 + M2V2 = M1V3 + M2V4) The object with the greater velocity will add velocity to the other object regardless of the masses. A light car running into the rear of a large slower truck will cause that trucks forward velocity to increase despite the truck having more kinetic energy. The car will lose velocity, while if energy was transferred from the object with greater kinetic energy it would be the truck that slowed while the car sped up.
Herb
Alan
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The surface temperature of the moon also tells us that the sun is capable of heating the earth’s surface to much higher temperatures. It doesn’t not because the atmosphere keeps the earth cool.
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Alan,
“It doesn’t not because the atmosphere keeps the earth cool.” Have you considered if the difference between the moon’s rate (period) of rotation (about 28 days) versus the earth’s period (24 hours) might be a factor?
Have a good day, Jerry
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T. C. Clark
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Cooler objects cannot heat warmer objects but cooler objects can slow the rate of cooling of warmer objects. The atmosphere is too large and complex to model. CO2 does not have a doubling of its effect as CO2 is doubled. The warmists claim CO2 warming causes more water vapor – the largest greenhouse gas – and therefore warming causes more feedback warming. The warmists claim CO2 since 1850 is causing the warming but ignore history when CO2 was much greater than today…they also ignore the for instance 1940 to 1980 period when CO2 went up 15% and the temp went down slightly – no comment from them. The IR from earth towards space at night is not a mirror image of the IR from the sum during the day….there is different frequencies and CO2 reacts to different wavelengths. There is evidence of fraud by the warmists…Mikey Mann, et al. Climate comes in cycles and man does not thoroughly understand the cycles.
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Smack MacDougal
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The atmosphere consists of gases.
Gases are matter in gaseous states.
Matter is not energy.
If the atmosphere became filled with more dense gases, such an atmosphere would act as thicker insulation, reflecting more heat back to earth radiating from the earth. Yet, it would also prevent more heat from striking the earth.
This seems wrong: ““The longwave radiation (LWR, also referred to as infrared radiation) emitted from the Earth’s surface is largely absorbed by certain atmospheric constituents…”
Molecules can not “absorb” energy. Energy can move matter. Enough applied energy can break molecular bonds.
Is the atmosphere today any different than 500 years ago?
How is it that we breathe the same kind of air today that people did 500 years ago? 1000 years ago? Air is made up of 78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.04% carbon dioxide, and other gases in trace amounts. Has air changed i the last 500 years? 1000 years?
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Allan Shelton
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I believe that the water cycle on planet Earth cools the earth.
Therefore, WV is a coolant.
All gasses rise when heated.
Also, the GHG Theory and the GHE is true for a closed system like a regular greenhouse.
Planet earth is not a closed system.
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Herb Rose
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Hi Alan,
You are right that the water cycle is what cools the Earth. It takes 600 calories/gram to evaporate water, which means that every gallon of rain that falls is the result of more than 2 million calories of heat being absorbed at the Earth’s surface and being transported into space.
Water in the atmosphere is not a gas but micro droplets of water, which is why they can absorb so much energy. If you make a graph of the temperature at different altitudes divided by the density at that altitude (Gives the kinetic energy of a constant ‘number of molecules instead of a volume) it shows that the kinetic energy of the molecules increases at a constant rate in the troposphere, where water moderates the temperature, then in a exponential curve above the troposphere where the molecules are gasses. The zigzag line produced by the thermometer is ridiculous. Energy does not flow like that.
Herb
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Allan,
You wrote: “All gasses rise when heated.”
Given this statement, how does one explain the following data where the fuel temperature about one foot above the earth’s surface is 12F greater than the air temperature at little more than 5 feet above the surface?
December 21, 2022. (https://wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/rawMAIN.pl?orOLOG)
I find that this data will not copy and paste so you and other must go to this link to verify the data to which I refer.
What you wrote is commonly believed by many, but it is observed to be absolutely false by measurements like this.
Have a good day, Jerry
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Brian James
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November 18, 2022 The Rockefeller Way: The Family’s Covert ‘Climate Change’ Plan Executive Summary By The Energy & Environmental Legal Institute
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https://www.globalresearch.ca/rockefeller-familys-covert-climate-change-plan/5678775
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