Sean Plunket-Steve Kirsch $1M debate to determine truth or lies
Sean Plunket of The Platform in New Zealand, challenged me on Twitter to a $1M high stakes debate. My response? I’m all in for raising the stakes
One of my readers alerted me that Sean just posted this after reading my article:
What?!?! My written offer on my Substack said “… bet me $1M …” (see below). My offer was in writing. Sean’s acceptance was in writing.
Now he’s saying, just kidding… that I should risk my money and he has no skin in the game if he loses?!?!
Sean spent the entire time in our discussion attacking me personally, rather than focusing on my views.
My offer to him was to set up a fair discussion of the issues by experts. There was an option for him to place a $1M wager if he was so convinced he was right, but I said this was optional.
My focus is clarifying the issues: separating truth from fiction. Isn’t that what Sean’s The Platform is about?
As a side note, money is a great way to expose people who spread false information because as soon as there is personal monetary risk involved, the people who say stuff that they are not confident of will rarely “put their money where their mouth is.”
It’s a very reliable way to determine whether people believe what they say.
But as I said, if Sean lacks confidence in his beliefs, he doesn’t have to wager any money. I’m fine with whatever he wants to do.
Sean, you should read the comments in response to your tweet from YOUR followers after you backing out. They aren’t supporting you. My favorite one which translated your tweet into plain English:
OUR followers want the debate to happen because they want the TRUTH exposed. Why don’t you want the truth exposed???? By showing the world how EASY it is to debunk people like me with FACTS, you will actually be doing the world a HUGE service by discrediting me and my “misinformation spreader” friends.
Isn’t it odd that NOBODY wants to debunk us in a fair debate??
My suggested format is totally fair. The rules apply equally to both sides.
Sean: What is it going to take for you to accept?
Executive summary
Sean, if you are so sure you are right about those clots like you said, would you like to bet me $1M? This is a quick way to double your money without risk.
He accepted on Twitter. This is going to be game changing because it will be the FIRST EVER high stakes debate to resolve an issue that the pro and anti-vaxxers disagree about.
We’ve waited 3 years for a face-to-face discussion and now, thanks to Sean, we are finally going to have it! I am so excited.
And because I don’t want Sean to accuse me as a grifter, I will let him know up front that the cells don’t lie and it’s impossible for you to win the bet on the clots.
Introduction
Cam Slater then posted this on Twitter:
You’ll never guess what happened next. Cam did it!!!!!!!!
Sean replied to Cam’s post and accepted the challenge and told readers to check Sean’s own Twitter account.
Next, Sean posted his acceptance on his own Twitter account:
Here are the comments from Sean’s followers on his post:
I gotta tell you. SuperPsi (see box in red above) gets my vote as the funniest response (while also being 100 percent true).
Note: I’ve got two lifetime bans on Twitter, otherwise I’d comment directly.
I also want to acknowledge the assistance from Jonathan Jarry and Debunk the Funk who collectively convinced Sean that I’m not serious about my offers.
Jarry and Funk are both misinformation spreaders who refuse to debate me ON CAMERA. Sean clearly relied on them in accepting my offer.
I keep telling Sean he has to LOOK AT THE DATA and not trust the “experts.” By the end of this, Sean will see that I am right.
Sean: feel free to put Jonathan Jarry and Debunk the Funk on your team. See, I’ve made it easy for you!
Let’s clarify the bet terms for all to see
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This is hilarious Steve will masacure this moron, why people with no critical thinking skills would ever take on the likes of mr Kirsch is beyond me. I have followed this man for 2 years and never have I ever found any of his reports to be misleading in the least. Why would a journalist think he has the capability to overcome someone that actually understands science and stats is laughable
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