Relativistic Rotational Angular Momentum
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Abstract. This is an exercise without a conclusion, intended to examine a phenomenon that, in the relativistic world, seems most difficult to comprehend, let alone explain – relativistic rotational angular momentum. Many have tackled the problem, known as the “Ehrenfest Paradox,” primarily in terms of analyzing effects on the size and geometry of a relativistically rotating disk. Length contraction and time dilation interplay with aspects of general relativity and hyperbolic geometry according to the experts.
Tackling this aspect is beyond me, so I try to examine a somewhat more predictable phenomenon, relativistic angular momentum as a result of relativistic mass increase in both a rotating rod and disk. No conclusions are drawn, but observations are offered as food for thought for the reader. (NOTE: This has been summarized from the full paper, available at https://vixra.org/pdf/2104.0023v1.pdf)
- INTRODUCTION
Rotational motion has always posed intriguing phenomena that sometime seem to defy the laws of physics. For example, consider the stability of a bicycle in motion or a spinning gyroscope. Or the underwater rotating cylinders of Ionel Dinu that seem to mimic the behavior of bar magnets, whereby cylinders rotating in the same direction (clockwise-clockwise or counterclockwise-counterclockwise) will “repel” each other, while those rotating in opposite directions (clockwise-counterclockwise) will “attract.” In fact, if left to spin on their own in either direction, they will align just as the north and south poles of a pair of bar magnets will. (https://sciencewoke.org/scientist/ionel-dinu/)
Or Eric Laithwaite’s famous 1983 video demonstration of how a spinning disk at the end of rod, too heavy to easily lift when stationary, becomes surprisingly “lightweight” when set to rotating rapidly. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRPC7a_AcQo) Standard explanations can be complex and seemingly contrary to common sense, but are relatively straightforward when compared to explaining disk rotational behavior in the relativistic realm, the subject of what is known as the “Ehrenfest Paradox.”
- THE EHRENFEST PARADOX
“The Ehrenfest paradox [Paul Ehrenfest, 1909; see Figure 1 in https://vixra.org/pdf/2104.0023v1.pdf] concerns the rotation of a ‘rigid’ disc in the theory of relativity. … that is made to rotate about its axis of symmetry. The radius R as seen in the laboratory frame is … equal to its value R0 when stationary. However, the circumference (2[pi]R) should appear Lorentz-contracted to a smaller value than at rest, by … [the square root of 1 – (v/c)2]. This leads to the contradiction that R = R0 and R < R0.
“The paradox has been deepened further by Albert Einstein, who showed that … the circumference … would … measure greater than 2[pi]R [contrary to Ehrenfest] … Ehrenfest considered an ideal … cylinder that is made to rotate … [I]ts radius stays the same, [b]ut measuring rods laid out along the circumference should be Lorentz-contracted to a smaller value than at rest, by … [the square root of 1 – (v/c)2] … This leads to the paradox that the rigid measuring rods would have to separate from one [which] seems to suggest that a rotated … disk should shatter … [and] … is not generally compatible with special relativity. According to special relativity … (as Einstein later showed) a disk-riding observer will measure a circumference [increased by the reciprocal of the square root of 1 – (v/c)2].
“The rotating disc and its connection with rigidity was also an important thought experiment for Albert Einstein in developing general relativity … [concluding] that the geometry of the disc becomes non-Euclidean for a co-rotating observer … Grøn [in Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity, Springer, p. 91 (2007), ISBN 978-0-387-69200-5] states that the resolution of the paradox stems from the impossibility of synchronizing clocks in a rotating reference frame …
The modern resolution can be briefly summarized as follows: … Small distances measured by disk-riding observers … is indeed well approximated (for small angular velocity) by the geometry of the hyperbolic plane … For physically reasonable materials, during the spin-up phase a real disk expands radially due to centrifugal forces, relativistic corrections partially counteract (but do not cancel) this Newtonian effect.”
In the chapter on “Relativistic Paradoxes” (The Dynamics of Relativistic Length Contraction and the Ehrenfest Paradox, 2007 [https://arxiv.org/pdf/0712.3891.pdf]), Fayngold tackles the Ehrenfest Paradox by “… analyz[ing] the Lorentz contraction in rotational motions …” He reaches a similar conclusion to the preceding:
“…[A] spinning disk is in a state of a complex deformation which renders its plane non-Euclidean. It is described by Lobachevsky’s geometry with negative curvature; sometimes it is referred to as a hyperbolic geometry … [T]he congruence in the co-rotating frame is satisfied in a more subtle way taking account of the fact that time in rotating systems is not single-valued. Its most essential features are that the sum of the angles of a triangle is less than 2[pi], and the ratio of the length of a circle to its radius is greater than 2[pi] …
“The relativistic kinematics of accelerated objects cannot be separated from the dynamics … The size of an accelerated object cannot be uniquely determined … because the object generally cannot even be assigned a constant proper length … A uniformly rotating ring, while retaining its circumference length … 2[pi]R, is physically deformed (circumferentially stretched at fixed R), which becomes evident in the co-rotating [reference frame] …
[I]n a rotational boost, an object undergoes physical deformation lasting permanently after the boost and becoming one of the characteristics of its spinning state … [T]he dynamical aspect of the Lobachevsky’s geometry in a rotating system is manifest in the increase of the system’s rest mass. …” (https://arxiv.org/pdf/0712.3891.pdf)
If all of this seems confusing, then welcome to the club. From these explanations, what I surmise is that, since the rotating disk experiences acceleration (centripetal), it cannot be considered as an inertial reference frame and subject to the laws of special relativity. The mysterious relativistic phenomena of length contraction and time dilation seem somehow to play off one another to maintain the shape of the rotating disk.
The resolution of the paradox appears to require delving into the much more complex realm of general relativity (and hyperbolic geometry), although for a sufficiently large disk, perhaps the rotating periphery could at least approximately fit into the inertial reference frame requirement for special relativity, being the motion for at least a comparatively short distance should be close to linearly translational.
However, although I will make no attempt to examine the interplay between relativistic length contraction and time dilation, I do note Fayngold’s statement that “[T]he dynamical aspect of … a rotating system is manifest in the increase of the system’s rest mass.” It is this phenomenon, relativistic increase in mass of a rotating disk, and its effect upon angular momentum that I will endeavor upon which to shed at least a dim light.
- RELATIVISTIC MASS AND ANGULAR MOMENTUM
Before diving into the relativistic angular momentum for a disk whose perimeter is rotating with a tangential speed (nearly) equal to that of light, I first examine a simpler case.
3.1 ROTATING ROD
Assume a thin rod of mass M and length R rotating about an axis through one of its ends such that the other end at R rotates with a tangential speed (nearly) equal to that of light. Assuming constant angular speed omega, the tangential speed at any position r ≤ R will just be v = [omega]r, i.e., directly proportional to r. Therefore, over any incremental length dr from r+ to r–, the non-relativistic mass is (M/R)(r+ – r–), where M/R represents the linear density.
For convenience, assume that M, R, omega and v can all be expressed in units such that each acquires a value of unity (e.g., c could be measured in units of light-sec/sec). Using the Lorentz factor, which simplifies to the square root of 1 – r2 with the unitized values, the relativistic mass for increment dr becomes (with the unitized values) = sin-1(r+) – sin-1(r–), via integration formula #201 from the CDC Standard Mathematical Tables, 27th Edition, W. Beyer, ed., CRC Press, Inc., Boca Raton, FL (1986).
The angular momentum L = I[omega], which reduces to L = I for omega = 1, where I is the moment of inertia. For the incremental length dr, with our unitized values, both the moment of inertia and the angular momentum can be expressed as follows for the non-relativistically rotating rod: L(r) = I(r) = (r+3 – r–3)/3.
For the relativistic angular momentum, the relativistic moment of inertia employs the formula for relativistic mass (= rest mass/[the square root of 1 – (v/c)2]), yielding L(r) = I(r) = {sin-1(r+) – r+[1 – r+2]1/2 – sin-1(r–) + r–[1 – r–2]1/2}/2, via integration formula #214 from the CDC Tables. Employing an EXCEL® spreadsheet to perform these integrations for radial increments of 0.01, results are obtained for both the non-relativistic and relativistic mass and angular momentum of the rod (see Figure 2 in https://vixra.org/pdf/2104.0023v1.pdf).
As expected, the non-relativistic mass increases linearly with radius, while the non-relativistic angular momentum rises more than linearly until reaching the value of 1/3 at r = 1.0. This corresponds exactly to the angular momentum for the rod, L = MR2[omega]/3 = 1/3 with the unitized values. For the rod rotating such that its end at R (nearly) attains light speed, the relativistic mass increases more than linearly with radius, reaching a maximum of 1.57 (= [pi]/2, the solution to the corresponding integral for 0 < r < 1).
This is 4.7 times greater than the non-relativistic mass. Correspondingly, the relativistic angular momentum also increases at an even greater more than linear rate with radius, reaching a maximum of 0.785 (= [pi]/4, the solution to the corresponding integral for 0 < r < 1. This is 2.4 times greater than the non-relativistic angular momentum.
- ROTATING DISK
Assume a thin disk of mass M and length R rotating about an axis through its center such that the periphery at R rotates with a tangential speed (nearly) equal to that of light. Assuming constant angular speed omega, the tangential speed at any position r ≤ R will just be v = [omega]r, i.e., directly proportional to r. Therefore, over any incremental annulus dr from r+ to r–, the non-relativistic mass is {M/([pi]R2)}[pi](r+2 – r–2) = (M/R2)(r+2 – r–2), where M/([pi]R2) represents the areal density.
For convenience, assume once more that M, R, omega and v can all be expressed in units such that each acquires a value of unity. With the Lorentz factor via the unitized values, the relativistic mass for annular increment dr becomes (with the unitized values) 2([1 – r–2]1/2 – [1 – r+2]1/2), via integration formula #204 from the CDC Tables. The angular momentum L = I[omega], which reduces to L = I for omega = 1, where I is the moment of inertia. For the annular increment dr, with our unitized values, both the moment of inertia and the angular momentum can be expressed as follows for the non-relativistically rotating disk: L(r) = I(r) = (r+4 – r–4)/2.
For the relativistic angular momentum, the relativistic moment of inertia employs the formula for relativistic mass (= rest mass/[the square root of 1 – (v/c)2]), yielding L(r) = I(r) = 2([1 – r–2]1/2[r–2 + 2] – [1 – r+2]1/2[r+2 + 2])/3, via integration formula #220 from the CDC Tables. Employing again an EXCEL® spreadsheet to perform these integrations for radial increments of 0.01, results are obtained for both the non-relativistic and relativistic mass and angular momentum of the disk (see Figure 3 in https://vixra.org/pdf/2104.0023v1.pdf).
As expected, the non-relativistic mass increases more than linearly with radius, while the non-relativistic angular momentum rises more than linearly until reaching the value of 1/2 at r = 1.0. This corresponds exactly to the angular momentum for the disk, L = MR2[omega]/2 = 1/2 with the unitized values. For the disk rotating such that its periphery at R (nearly) attains light speed, the relativistic mass increases at an even greater more than linear rate with radius, reaching a maximum of 2.00 (the solution to the corresponding integral for 0 < r < 1).
This is 4.0 times greater than the non-relativistic mass. Correspondingly, the relativistic angular momentum also increases at an even greater more than linear rate with radius, reaching a maximum of 4/3 = 1.33 (the solution to the corresponding integral for 0 < r < 1). This is 2.7 times greater than the non-relativistic angular momentum.
- OBSERVATIONS
While I feel unable to draw any conclusions from my examination, I can at least make some observations in hope that they will serve as food for thought for the reader. For the behavior of a relativistically rotating disk as discussed in the Ehrenfest Paradox, at least in terms of changes in size, geometry and maybe even speed, I refer the reader to the summaries provided in Section 2 and their references.
What I did attempt to tackle is the effect on mass as the disk attains (nearly) the speed of light tangentially at its periphery, assuming the formulas for relativistic mass increase can be applied to what is not strictly an inertial reference frame (although it may be approximately so for perhaps the rotating periphery since the motion for at least a comparatively short distance should be close to linearly translational). As a precursor to the rotating disk, I first examined a simple rotating rod, pivoted at one end.
The results indicate that the relativistic mass, compared to the non-relativistic mass, increases by as much as a factor of 4.7 at the periphery. The corresponding relativistic angular momentum increases by a factor of 2.4 at the periphery.
For the rotating disk, the relativistic mass at the periphery is 4.0 times that of the non-relativistic mass, while the relativistic angular momentum is 2.7 times that of its non-relativistic counterpart. For non-relativistic rotation, the ratio of the angular momenta between the disk and the rod is derivable from their moments of inertia given equal mass, radii and rotational speeds. For relativistic motion, the ratio is greater: Ldisk/Lrod = 1.33/([pi]/4) = 1.7. This ratio of relativistic masses is Mdisk/Mrod = 2.00/([pi]/2) = 1.3.
Thus, the disk, when rotated with a tangential speed (nearly) that of light at its periphery, shows both a greater mass increase and greater angular momentum increase vs. the rod, rotated about one end such that the other end attains (nearly) tangential light speed.
Does all this mean that mass increase at relativistic speed is an actual phenomenon that would occur in the relativistically rotating disk? Or could it masquerade for some other effect that manifests itself as if there was a mass increase? Would the mass increase, if actual, occur by increasing the density of the rod or disk as one moves farther along the radii, assuming they preserve their original shapes and geometry?
Or could it be that the density remains the same and the original shapes and geometry change to accommodate more mass? Or might it be some combination of both effects? Clearly answering questions about the behavior of a rotating disk with (nearly) tangential light speed at its periphery is very difficult, and even experts have to resort to fairly complex theories (hyperbolic geometry) and general relativity to fit this into the relativistic world of Einstein.
(Note: All of the author’s previous papers, many of which have been published on principia-scientific.org, are available in The Renegade Physicist from amazon.com.)
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Wisenox
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I’ve watched Laithwaite’s videos in the past. I think he’s a great instructor, but remember something like he was ostracized in a manner that seemed targeted. Never thought about the angular momentum/gyroscope in the manner presented. Its interesting, but I see it through moments of inertia. During the lifting action of the spinning symmetrical disc, a force is being applied to the short moment, and the disc responds by seeming to rise. Would it rise in a straight line, or attempt to complete a circle? In objects with 3 moments of inertia, the object will invert entirely on its own when force is applied to its middle moment. I always suspected that the rise in the gyroscope would fall under the same explanation. As if the gyroscope wishes to complete a path, but the user prevents it. Were the user to let go, gravity would be seen to have effect as it prevents the completion of the path. i.e the disc falls to the ground before rounding the circle.
Explaining the moment of inertia phenomenon is hard. Its the kind of thing where I’m sure I get it, but then it all sounds weird when I actually attempt to explain it. From what I understand, explaining the phenomenon well is actually somewhat of challenge among experts (seeing who can explain it in the simplest terms). I’m no expert, so I’ll leave that to someone’s reply.
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Wisenox
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A question I have for any experts:
Say the person holding the spinning disc rotates near the top of the rise, then uses the entire object like a hammer on the other side.
Would the force be multiplied, as we find in confined liquids (hydraulics)? Or, would the blow be stronger had the user simply used an non-spinning disc on the pole as a hammer?
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Wisenox
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How about a trebuchet? If the pole can release the spinning disc at the top of a trebuchet motion, what would the effect be?
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T. C. Clark
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Why not examine a real situation? The black hole at the center of the Milky Way has a star S-2 orbiting it in an elliptical orbit which brings the star somewhat close to the BH. I believe a sphere can be sliced up into “discs”. I believe both the star and the BH are rotating . The star reaches very high velocity when it is nearest the BH. Astronomers say they have detected red shift in light from the star when it is closest to the BH. This situation has it all…no?
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Ken Hughes
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Length contraction is not quite “real”. It is purely relative. Mass increase is the same, purely relative. The only “real” effect is the time dilation and this is why the water in Newton’s bucket piles up at the perimeter. The tangential speed is greater there and so the time dilation is also greater. “Everything tries to exist where time runs the slowest (and gravity takes them there). – Kip Thorne, so the water seeks to exist at the perimeter where time is running slower than anywhere inboard.
The same applies to inertial time dilation of course. Both Newton and Mach were slightly wrong, although Newton had the right idea. There IS a preferred reference frame, the field of energy that we experience as time. When something moves through this field, it uses some of the field energy (that normally moves it through time), for kinetic energy, which is why time slows down with increasing speed.
Stand still in intergalactic space such that all light from all sources is neither red nor blue shifted, and your clock will run at the maximum “Universal time”. This is the stationary frame’, the oscillating standing wave of cosmic energy, the field of time. Travel through the field at the speed of light (the speed of time), and you are using ALL the energy of the field for kinetic energy, so you can go no faster.
I believe this view resolves all paradoxes.
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Wisenox
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You sound like you know what you’re talking about, so I’ll ask you. I’ll admit that I am on the side where time is not primordial, but a man made construct. I also know that exceptionally brilliant people have come with the theory. But, how does time dilation occur in respect to motion? Motion, to me, is the unification of the primordial state (velocity, course, path). Time is man’s way of applying a numerical aspect to these, but if time dilates then something should be happening to the aspects of motion. Yet, we require motion to describe time. If all motion stopped, we lose ability to tell time. The primordial motion still exists, but with a zero change in position along a path. What disappears is our concept if time. So, when dilation occurs does motion cease to be primordial? Or, is there another way of looking at it that I’m missing?
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T. C. Clark
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Is there time by itself?…or is there space/time only and the space part dropped for convenience? The speed of light cannot be exceeded so Einstein worked out how if that is true, then time or space/time must be variable. John Wheeler said space/time tells matter how to move and matter tells space/time how to curve. Someone else said gravity sort of refracts light like glass but does not slow it down.
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