Putin’s claim that BoJo scuttled peace deal confirmed by witnesses
Former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, and the mainstream media are hotly denying Vladimir Putin’s claim (in his recent Tucker Carlson interview) that Johnson derailed a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine just a couple of months after the war commenced
And yet, Putin was merely confirming the statement of David Arahamiya, leader of Ukraine’s ruling party, that was reported in Newsweek on November 27, 2023: Russia Offered to End War if Ukraine Dropped NATO Bid: Kyiv Official.
The German analyst and Former United Nations Assistant Secretary General, Michael von der Schulenberg, also published a reconstruction of these events on November 14, 2023, titled How The Chance Was Lost For A Peace Settlement Of The Ukraine War.
The totality of circumstances and the statements of Arahamiya and von der Schulenberg indicate that an Austrian-style neutrality deal could have prevented this war to begin with, and then—had it been embraced by the the USA and Britain—ended it just two months later.
Since Churchill delivered his June 4, 1940, “We shall fight on the beaches” speech, many postwar heads of state have apparently fantasized that their opponents on the international stage are “just like Hitler” and that there can be no negotiated settlement with them.
In BoJo’s case, this shallow, sophomoric notion has apparently resulted in the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainian and Russian soldiers.
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Alan
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That is completely wrong. Hitler tried to negotiate terms with Poland and it was Britain and France that declared war on Germany. After the defeat and evacuation of British troops Hitler offered a peace treaty which Britain refused. Churchill has to save his reputation and so millions lost their lives. The same is happening now.
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Herb Rose
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Hi Alan,
Britain and Hitler did have a peace agreement where the they gave Hitler the Sudetenland in exchange for “peace in our time”. Hitler promptly took the whole country and its war industry. When Austria was going to have a referendum Hitler invaded and took that country.
You are an idiot if you believe you can appease megalomaniacs who have clearly stated their intentions. (Hitler had a treaty with Russia giving them part of Poland but that didn’t stop him from invading Russia.) Putin has clearly stated that he wants to restore the Soviet Union including Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Moldova, Hungary, Bulgaria, and Ukraine whether those people want it or not. He has invaded Georgia, and other of his “allies”. To believe he will honor any agreement is the epitome of stupid.
Herb
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ChetT
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Herb
You’re a smart man but I’m guessing that history was not one of your strong suits. When it comes to not honoring agreements noone holds a candle to the west.
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Herb Rose
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Hi CherT,
I will agree that all politicians are liars, its one of the requirements to get nominated. The point is that once you see them blatantly lying (We’re doing military maneuvers, we are not going to invade Ukraine) you should not give any credence to any claims they utter. (Hitler: We just want to re-unite the German people of Czechoslovakia, we have no other territorial ambitions.)
The question is why do people continue to believe them when these liars have already clearly stated what their intentions are.
Herb
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denis dombas
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Herb,it sounds as if you are either uninformed, ignorant or totally misinformed what is happening on this planet today. Unipolar world is gone and multipolar world is taking place. Era of US (empire of lies) is coming to an end!
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Howdy
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“The restoration of sovereignty is the main principle for ending the hot stage of the war,” the Ukrainian president added. “Everything will end in peace.”
What a joke. Again, blaming the other side for one’s own stupid tactics on behalf of third parties. You can see Zelensky’s strings a mile away.
He’s also quite Bojo-ish when you study him. What a pair.
No wonder bojo is involved, he’s a complete clown on the world stage. Showed himself up completely at the ‘climate meetings’ with his fairy talk.
Best he stick with the circus, like Sunak needs to do. The tories are done, but Sunak only just realised, or pretended to. No prime minister could be that thick.
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Herb Rose
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Hi Howdy,
It is the Ukrainians who are doing the fighting and dying. Having lived under Russian control they are unwilling to return to it. They recognize that the Russian tactics of targeting civilians is a portent of what their lives will be like underRussian control where all their assets will go to Russia leaving them with nothing. Under Stalin Ukrainians starved as all their grain was shipped to Russia in order to meet their quotas.
You should not be deciding for them what is best for them until you’ve walked in their shoes.
Herb
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Howdy
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“You should not be deciding for them what is best for them until you’ve walked in their shoes.”
As far as I can see, I commented on bojo, Zelensky, and Putin, not the inhabitants of the area, their history, or best way forward.
Just like any old action of the past, like the world wars, Stalin is nothing to do with the present.
I don’t believe a word the media say about what’s going on, I’ll make up my own mind.
In any case, we’ve been through this before. Like Trump and the American presidency, the west wants rid of Putin at all costs, that’s obvious.
Zelensky can do as he likes, regardless of the filth in his own back yard he is involved in, and the west is only too happy to help as he’s their puppet, and they all want the same thing: Removal of the spanner in the works of their domination ideals by the place known as Russia.
Just like the nuclear missiles in UK. Any reprisals would hit the UK, Not the US. So again, another puppet govt called the tories doing the bidding of the masters at the expense of their own country. Didn’t you know Herb, people are expendable, as long as the puppet-master is safe.
It’s all old playground tactics to sacrifice another to save one’s own hide.
Moral of the ongoing actions: Don’t purposefully stand on somebody else’s toes to see if they will bend, they’re likely to fight back.
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Howdy
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I’ve been talking to myself forever, yeah
And how I wish I knew me better, yeah
Still sitting on a shelf and never
Never seen the sun shine brighter
And it feels like me on a good day
on a good day – Above and Beyond
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S.C.
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Howdy, spotting fake news is simple. There isn’t much difference between the American mocking bird media {mbm) and the BBC, so when I refer to mbm, you may consider all propaganda outlets in G.B. included.
Rule 1, never accept MBM claims at face value, but you know that.
Rule 2, When in doubt, simply check other MBM sources. If they are all reporting the same storyline, it is very unlikely to be true. If they are reporting the same storyline and using very similar language, it is definitely a lie. And if they report the same storyline literally word for word, it’s a globalist psy-op aimed at the feeble-minded, not thinking folks such as yourself, thus you can ignore it as a Bad Story (BS).
MBM reporting on Russia and Ukraine is a prime example of BS.
Herb Rose
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Hi Howdy,
Instead of using the media try talking to those involved. Putin is very popular in Russia, (except for his critics who have a high mortality rate.), Zelensky is popular in Ukraine. Corruption in the old Soviet Union is endemic is not something brought in by Zelensky but something that has always been there. The Ukrainians are willing to fight all they ask is for the means. It was the British who betrayed the Czechs leaving them defenseless to Hitler and it was Czech tanks attacking at Dunkirk
You notice that Putin objected to the expansion of NATO but his invasion caused Sweden and Finland (two non hostile countries to Russia) to join in order to protect themselves from the very real threat of Russia. (Part of Finland has been under Russia control since the end of WW2.)
Britain and France have had nuclear weapons since the 50s The missiles only provide a credible delivery system. To think that you would be safer from nuclear threat or the U.S is somehow safe from nuclear attack is delusional.
Moral of past actions. If you allow someone to stand on your toes without fighting back (Chamberlin) it will only result in increase cost to you.
Herb
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Howdy
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Even talking to people from the places is just as biased. I’ll take my cues from around the world. and make my own choices
“delusional”
Come to that has it? The ‘genius’ has rubbed off on you. I guess I must have done something to stoke your ire then.
I didn’t say the US was untouchable by missiles, I said the UK will bear the result. Yes nuclear weapons have been here a long time, but now Biden is upping the stakes at other countries risk. People the world over are paying a price in their own way. As is required by the ‘masters’.
Ukraine allready has a war of it’s own, I don’t see the west’s puppet doing anything about that. I expect he really cares for the sanctity of life after all.
Again, past actions are not current events, not valid to the discussion.
When It comes to corruption, the west is a complete slime hole. Nowhere stinks as bad as the countries keeping the west’s self indulgent war going on for their own benefit.
As I said, we’ve been through it before, including the same points about the Ukrainian residents and people on the ground. It was unproductive then, and will be again.
Trump claims he could have resolved it, yet that’s currently scuppered. Per the article, witnesses say bojo has scuppered it. Why do that unless there is self interest in the war continuing?
All fakery and control. Business as usual.
I covered the article, that’s all I’m concerned with.
denis dombas
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Herb, again, stop watching MSM and get some facts first before making irrational comments?
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Herb,
Thank you for your comments.
I seems some forget who actually start wars. Who? Evil people who want to control other people.
Why was the Great Wall of China built? I read to keep out the Russians and I believe this. At the beginning of WWII Russia sided with the Germans and then switched sides Why? I have no idea but I observe that the Russians had no loyalty. I read that the Romans built a great wall in the northern portion of the British Isles to keep out the people to the north of the land which they (the Romans) had conquered from the British peoples who had originally settled the British Isles when no other people were living there.
Herb, again I thank you for your comments. For while there are no perfect people there are evil people who are unquestionably evil. We all need the waving Grace of the Creator God and His Son Jesus Christ who died on a Cross to save basically good people from their sins. But this only if imperfect humans recognize their sins and ask tor the Holy God’s forgiveness.
Have a good day
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Amen
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“We all need the waving Grace of the Creator God and His Son Jesus Christ who died on a Cross” [for us all.]
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Taxibill
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The great wall was built in increments over a couple of centuries . Built to keep other kingdoms at bay until their eventual domination . Russia was unheard of in the 7th century b.c.e. Why are you shit posting this obvious DRIVEL ?
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Taxibill,
In southern Oregon they, early 1900 settlers, have found nine -thousand year old+ (carbon dated) sandals in caves made by Indians. So, why should I believe “Russia was unheard of in the 7th century b.c.e.”?
Have a good day
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Roo63
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History is a complete fabrication. His-story, written by the victor’s.
The Great Wall of China is a trade route, with towers situated to collect taxes from the traders using it. The dimensions match those of Roman roads also.
I don’t know why there are gaps because I was not there and what we are told is only what they want to tell us, wheter it be true or false. They even change the books and footage, if the narrative requires adjustment, just as they have with many words in the dictionery for the sake of their fake “vaccine” agenda. Besides “vaccine” and “vaccination”, they changed “herd immunity” along with others, but there’s no way we can keep up with such things totally.
As for this Johnson farce, yes, he rushed over there as fast as his private fuel-guzzling jet could get him to Ukraine and “bang”, the peace deal was off the table completely.
But it’s not just him as even the lamest get caught with their pants down: PM Liz Truss, insulting the Russians by not having a clue about the local geography and then messaging the Americans “It’s done”, within a minute of the pipeline being blown and Ben Wallace mp giving out strategic military locations and more over the phone to hackers, during a prank call that went viral.
But NOTHING came of any of it, like with the Midazolam Murderer, Hancock, because they are ALL protected and they will NEVER be arrested, unless thrown under the bus.
Trump, Biden and their whole entourage are Jews AND they have ALL but 1, given an oath of allegiance to serve Israel, as have British politicians and Putin and Zalenski.
Israel is the Key to ending all Wars and the Israeli issue needs urgent attention.
Maybe that is why Carlson and Putin kept away from the topic.
The Jews want both the nazi strongpoint of Ukraine (Khazar) AND Palestine as a whole and that is why they are BOTH being Ethnically Cleansed, as “We all will be, with their “Kalergi Plan” … Nazi (Operation Paperclip”) DNA “Experiments” (mRNA tech. Injections), which most will unlikely survive, poisoned air, food and water and the millions of Soros immigrants (males of fighting age), flooding all the Western / white race countries.
There has just been a large migrant riot taken place in The Hague actually, which proves my point.
Basically, it’s all for show, a major distraction. It makes no difference who “They” (S) elect for office, they all serve Israel and the Globallists and if we don’t get our act together, we can all kiss our arses Goodbye.
But, please don’t take my word for it, as I can’t share the evidence on here. Instead, take a look over on Odysee and see for youselves via 2 good channels on these topics: “thecrowhouse” (Max Igan) and “DEMON HUNTER – SKYDOME ATLANTIS”. Those lads have it covered.
Hitler never died in that bunker btw. It was staged.
He died of old age, over in South America.
Trotski and Marx were both American Jews btw., they reported back to the Pentagon or CIA. I forget which.
All the best, guys.
Interesting points you all raise. Thanks.
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Roo63
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Sorry for any grammar errors etc., it’s late here and I’m tired, but what baffles me is that the Nazis (CIA (& NASA)) are working WITH the Jews.
I now know that those buildings in the camps could not be used for gassing so many people btw, so they died by other means.
In 1933 Hitler gave safe passage to Palestine for any Jew who wanted to leave Germany, so taking that into account, could it be that we are all speaking the truth, based on the historical evidence we have been allowed to see?
History is a Lie, virtually everything we are told, is a Lie.
Goodnight guys.
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Say huh?
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“Trotski and Marx were both American Jews btw., they reported back to the Pentagon or CIA. I forget which.”
Me thinks thou forgetest too much.
Marx lived from 1818 to 1883. Trotski from 1879 to 1940.
The Pentagon was finished in 1943 and the CIA was signed into existence by President Truman in 1947.
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Say Huh?,
Thank you for reminding (because I forget so quickly) me of the name “Marx” .For it has been explained to me that Karl Marx was the reason that my great-grandfather, a successful farmer, took his recent born (1860) son and family from Pomerania, Germany shortly after his brith to the USA to homestead in Wisconsin.. Then in 1882 my grandfather married another German immigrant and immediately moved Deuel County, South Dakota to homestead with other German and Scandinavian immigrants. And by 1884 most all of Deuel County had been settled by these immigrants.
Me thinks you have never actually studied this history which is quite personally familiar to me.
Have a good day
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Seriously
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All the warmongering points to w111 – is anyone even paying attention?? I’m sure they’ll call it something else….It’s the same playbook, just a slower approach.
There has never been a Palestinian state despite all these years because if it were ‘officially’ recognized as such, Israel could not continue their slow rape and pillage of such a state. All parties involved complicit in this.. They are now tired of waiting, the bit by bit approach. If you think Palestinians land is the end, you’re delusional.
US recent actions bombing with of adjacent countries.
Ukraine recognized as one of the most corrupt countries on earth – all forgotten now, let’s all give them billions!!
They’re bringing us to war slowly, again, to play their money shifting, Power games, sweep us all off our feet. Don’t be blindsided
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JaKo
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I do not consider myself an expert on anything, but I do know a few things, here and there…
However, I do not have the nerve to immerse into the insanity spewed here, in the comments section.
Just a few examples for the sake of brevity:
* “Putin has clearly stated that he wants to restore the Soviet Union including …” Really? Did Mr. Putin really proclaim that? Wasn’t it the opposite? (+)
* “…the Russian tactics of targeting civilians…” I sincerely hope the types of Curtis LeMay are turning in their graves in unison with their roasting in Hell! Clear? And for now, please, just count how many civilians did the 404 kill between 2014 and 2022 in Donbas! And then put that in perspective of how many civilians did the Russians kill during their SMO in the 404 with how many of the 404’s soldiers they eliminated during the same period, was it about 1 to 100? Is that “targeting civilians?” And then compare that ratio with the recent IDF’s “war on Hamas” — that is inverse of that, isn’t it? (++)
Etc. Etc.
Then this lunacy of Great Wall of China — that is breathtaking — oh, maybe I forgot that the Russian Czar “Leonid Leonidovich the Terrible” invaded China in the 3rd century BC (BCE) just after freeing the evil Persia from Incas perhaps… (BTW, the “Golden Horde” were not “Russians”)
Etc. Etc.
This helped me to “adjust my perspective” on a few contributors, very disheartening, indeed.
BTW, some of these statements can be described as pure lies (propaganda) (+) and some as “Projections” (++), but for the bulk of it, OMG!
It should be obvious why so many are on the bandwagon of Agenda 2030 / Great Reset (or whatever). Great majority of people are Mass Formed beyond belief and way past the point of return — OK then, now comes the “2025 trimming,” as per the Deagel Forecast.
Unfortunately, we had it coming…
Sorry, JaKo
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Herb Rose
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Hi Jako,
Russia has fought wars with Azerbaijan and Georgia to liberate territories. Russia wants more territory. while China wants to be the ruler of all Chinese peoples. As China becomes the dominate partner in the alliance it will be interesting to see what will happen with Outer Manchuria, which Chine was forced to cede to Russia even though it was historical Chinese and the vast majority of the population is Han Chinese.
There is a difference between civilian casualties and targeting civilians. One occurs as you try to destroy the ability to wage war, the other is trying to destroy the will to make war. In WW2 the Germans started bombing British supply lines and air bases to reduce their ability to wage war (almost worked) and there were civilian casualties then the focus switched to London and civilians to try to make them lose their will to fight (Never worked and only strengthened their will to resist but this didn’t stop Britain from using the same tactic on Germany (Dresden)) In Japan there was no separation of the war industry and civilians so bombing was blanket instead of targeted. (Curtis Lemay said at the end there was nothing left to bomb but this had no effect on the Japanese resolve to fight on.
Putin’s missile attacks on Kiev have no tactical purpose (just as the V-2 attacks on London had no tactical objective) but are just aimed to destroy the will to fight (not working).
As an Englishman don’t you think it’s ironic that you condemn the way Israel defends against a terrorist attack when the whole mess was created by Churchill and England?
Herb
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MattH
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I find Colonel Douglas Macgregor a font of knowledge on global conflict’s and their history and the motives of many relevant influence Pedlars.
Macgregor was an assistant security adviser to the Trump regime and is a refreshing reality check.
Enjoy this interview. Tucker Carlson also did an interview with the colonel well worth the watch.
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Commenters,
Go back and read the title of this article and Its first paragraph and then read Alan’s first comment. I ask what does the article have to do with Hitler? And I ask who invaded whom? And if one cannot comprehend the point of my questions it is not my problem but it is the problem of whomever cannot comprehend the point of my questions.
Have a dood day
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JaKo
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Mon cher Jerry, la citation de l’article:
“Since Churchill delivered his June 4, 1940, ‘We shall fight on the beaches’ speech, many postwar heads of state have apparently fantasized that their opponents on the international stage are ‘just like Hitler’ and that there can be no negotiated settlement with them.”
Vous: merci beaucoup! Moi: pa de quoi.
Cheers, JaKo
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Commenters and other PSI readers,
I call these links to your attentions to document that we can all make terrible blunders.
https://principia-scientific.com/feynmans-blunder-part-1/
https://principia-scientific.com/feynmans-blunder-part-2/
Have a good day
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