‘Green Energy’ Not Very Green After All!
Solar energy is very dilute, so solar collectors usually cover huge areas of flat arable land, stealing farmland, starving wild herbs and grasses of sunlight and creating “Solar Deserts”.
Wind turbines steal energy from winds which often bring moisture from the ocean. These walls of turbines then create rain shadows, producing more rain near the turbines and more droughts down-wind. Turbines work best along ridge lines where eagles also seek thermals, so birds and bats get chopped up by these whirling scythes. They also annoy neighbours with noise and increase bushfire risk.
They even spread their wall of wind towers offshore, so that less wind and rain even reaches the shore. Not green at all.
Now green dreamers want to use our precious water to manufacture hydrogen in a round-robin electrolytic process that consumes far more energy than it can ever produce.
Electrolysis consumes nine tonnes of water plus heaps of electricity to make one tonne of hydrogen. This processed water is not recovered until the hydrogen is burned (unlike water in steam turbines where most water is reused and some escapes to the atmosphere via cooling towers.)
“In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.”
Terry Pratchett
Hydrogen is a low-energy explosive gas. Collecting, storing and exporting it will be a hazardous business and producing it will consume scads of Australian water and electricity to generate trendy “green” fuel for Asia. Burning this fuel will release pure Australian water into polluted Asian skies. But the Australian Government is funding hydrogen speculation with $70 million.
Green Energy isn’t green. It has a huge cost in rare metals; it creates toxic waste problems; solar panels create solar deserts; turbines chop birds and steal wind and rain from inland areas; and now they want to steal fresh water and energy to export low-energy explosive hydrogen.
In contrast, coal is fossil sunshine. Burning it releases new energy for industry and its combustion products bring great benefits for the green world – water vapour, carbon dioxide plant food, and valuable plant micro-nutrients.
Why export our sunshine, wind and fresh water via hydrogen while leaving our abundant fossil sunshine locked underground as “politically stranded assets”?
All that is not green – it’s green stupidity.
Further Reading
Monumental, Unsustainable Environmental Impacts of Green Energy:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/07/05/monumental-unsustainable-environmental-impacts/
Hydrogen Strategy to nowhere:
https://www.europeanscientist.com/en/energy/hydrogen-strategy-to-nowhere%E2%80%A8/?utm_source=Energy+geopolitics&utm_campaign=fcbaa25021
Wind farms bring the Egyptian vulture to near-extinction in Andalusia:
ttp://savetheeaglesinternational.org/new/an-extinction-in-progress.html
Why Wind Won’t work:
http://carbon-sense.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/why-wind-wont-work.pdf
The Environmental Cost of “Renewable” Energy:
https://carbon-sense.com/2”019/03/25/environmental-cost-of-renewable-energy/
The Australian Renewable Energy Agency (ARENA) is set to gift $70 million to hydrogen speculators:
https://arena.gov.au/news/seven-shortlisted-for-70-million-hydrogen-funding-round/
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FINALLY, AFTER A HUNDRED YEARS!
DISCOVER OF A NEW SCIENTIFIC FORMULA ON HYDROELECTRIC THAT HAD BEEN FORGOTTEN DURING THE PAST CENTURY!
WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE NEW DISCOVERY OF HIDDEN CLEAN ENERGY ON GLOBAL ECONOMY AND CLIMATE CHANGE?
(Ee>Ep+E1at) = (E>P+1at)
What is the most difficult scientific question of global hydroelectric that none one of scientists of the world could not answer to it? Now the hard global question! How can we produce clean energy in a best way by the potential of water Static head in dams & seas that this water pressure can push to the center of planet? Answer: This is by getting benefit of joint scientific formula (E>P+1at) with immersion turbine method inside the water of dams & seas. Ee= High pressure clean energy that is produced by the water power plants in the depth of water via released fixed potential energy of water natural pressure (More than ten meters of water) with new method (Immersion turbines of series and parallel in depth of water in zero point of opposite forces). Ep= Released fixed potential energy of water natural pressure in water depth (More than ten meters of water). E1at= Amount of energy that is consumed at a small pump of one atmosphere power is the ability (In the same place of the water power plant in water depth).This new method is as like as old method of energy production in dams. The difference is that the volumetric capacity of atmosphere can be made with equipment (Boxes cycle of pipes).With help of this new formula in any depth of water you can get the powerful clean energy! This new method can help us to transfer of volumetric capacity of the atmosphere to the deep water! Natural pressure of water in any depth of water can help to exit water in the boxes cycle of pipes that they installed at the same depth (New power plant of developed hydroelectric).This new formula and new method will produce cheap energy in the world and they can change the world soon! Do not worry because new formula discover can solve the world environment problems (Ee>Ep+E1at). The use of oil and gas has ended really! This new formula works with its new method (Immersion Turbines of series and parallel in depth of water in zero point of opposite forces). Thus in power generation, water does not exit from the dams! This is a new industrial revolution in the world. All the scientists in the world are in the shock now. With this great discovery will solve the problem of global warming too. It is a scientific fact. I found the answer a question of science that hundreds of years, scientists are looking for answers. Now the time has come to say that we could find a new theory to produce clean energy more powerful than atomic energy: The scientific use of the formula (Ee>Ep+E1at) and the most advanced new method of producing electricity from immersion turbines in depth of seas and oceans water. With amazing discover of a new clean energy formula in depth of water (E>P+1at). The immersion turbine method in depth of sea is the base of this new model. Many scientists believe that the discovery of the formula is unparalleled. Although many still in shock! How this formula has not be discovered by scientists in the world. You can read the articles of (Change the world with Kurdistan’s industrial revolution) and (A Kurdish inventor has found a new method for electricity production under water).This new formula works with its new method (Immersion Turbines of series and parallel in depth of water in zero point of opposite forces). Thus in power generation, water does not exit from the dams! This is a simple form of advanced technology. Constant power plants in water can helps to transfer the energy to the cities. Power transmission cabling system must be secure and safe of industrial. My work is not too important! I just answer a scientific question. Answer to a hard question that scientists are searching for hundreds of years. My new formula and new method can change the world and start a new industrial revolution soon. This invention is patented in Department of Justice in Kurdistan of Iraq No. 952/6 on 12/6/2013. All the scientists have accepted this theory. Investigate the truth is simple. I have to say that this method is very new. This is not a simple invention. I could prove and establish a new scientific basis. I have a principle in science hydroelectric patent. Meaning of the scientific basis is that the scientific law will be the basis for another new patent in the world. This new basis law is a scientific source as like as Newton’s Law and etc …
The TV report:
Kürt mühendisten elektrik üretim projesi
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Doug Harrison
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Mohamed! What the Hell are you writing about? It may be that you have hit on something good but there is no way to ascertain that from this garbage. Get it translated into good technical English and we might be able to make some sense of it.
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John Nicol
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Very good article Viv. Fortunately I think all of the “science” points towards the ending of this scam of global warming. Covid-19 recovery will require all of the nonsensical projects to be abandoned – or am I just being hopeful? Best wishes, John Nicol
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Andy Rowlands
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Excellent article about the folly of so-called ‘renewable’ energy.
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richard
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All change-
https://climatechangedispatch.com/as-green-energy-flounders-environmentalists-embrace-nuclear/
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Matth
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Wind turbines steal energy from winds which often bring moisture from the ocean. These walls of turbines then create rain shadows, producing more rain near the turbines and more droughts down-wind.
Really?
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Jerry Krause
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Hi MattH,
“You cannot have your cake and eat it too.”
“Cause and effect.
I agree with Viv.” “All this may seem a far cry from the general circulation of the world’s atmosphere but the detail serves to point the moral, that one cannot explain the broad features of world climate if one does not know the actual mechanisms involved. ” (R.C. Sutcliffe, ‘Weather & Climate’, 1966, ‘The Winds of the World’, pp 139)
Have a good day, Jerry
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MattH
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Thank you Jerry. Rain shadows are caused by the dominant range of hills. mini mountains that turbines are often desecrating the vista of and mindlessly scything birds and bats upon Do some relic tall trees on a ridge line and ridge face cause these localized weather manifestations.
I admire Vivl’s articles. He is the only person I have read who has mentioned the moon in relation to El Nino events becoming established. The Earth,s rotation influences oceanic currents, long fetch sea level winds effect oceanic currents, then comes the moon and other gravitational bodies moving masses of oceanic water, not just surface water, which is a possible or probable trigger or co- trigger for El Ninos.
So yes, Viv sees.
Cheers Jerry. Matt
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Herb Rose
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Hi Matt,
Is there any evidence correlating el Nino with the moon?
The equatorial currents are a result of the inertia of water as the Earth turns at 1000 mph at the equator (Wind only interacts with the water’s surface.). Even though the water is traveling east it is moving at a slower rate than the Earth which gives it an apparent westerly movement. Because of the apparent westward movement the water is exposed to the sun for a longer time and gathers heat.
In the Atlantic the warm water is deflected north by the coast of Brazil producing the Gulf Stream and there is no el Nino.
In the Pacific the warm water strikes a barrier formed by the Philippines, Indonesia, and other islands which act as a partial dam inhibiting the water flow and forming a pool of warm water. Over time the pool of water gathers more heat. Eventually the surface water becomes hotter than the current causing the current to sink under the surface water. When the submerged water strikes the island barrier it moves to the surface pushing the warm water east forming el Nino.
Herb
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MattH
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Hi Herb.
You have previously explained to me some of the mechanics of El Nino occurring which is the most credible explanation I have come across.
Most meteorologist’s papers suggest the Walker Cell reverses which the winds there of send the Eastern Pacific warm water to Western America which is a cart before the horse (garbage) hypothesis, as you know. The Walker Cell reverses because the warmer surface temperature water has blatted from North of Australia to America. Cause and effect.
El Nino, the Christmas child, first manifests around Christmas in Central America so there is some clock work cyclic mechanism that is a part or total trigger so moon contribution is possible from my own pondering.
El Nino appears to be forming before the Southern summer solstice ( Earth-sun apogee 2nd January) effect where the earth is 6,000,000 kilometres closer to the sun than the Northern summer solstice.
The other El Nino contribution which is totally from my own pondering is Drake Passage. The Antarctic peninsula and South America are only 500 miles apart plus there is significant under sea shallowing through Drake Passage from historic geological events so part of the Sub Antarctic current cannot fit through Drake passage and in effect is like a mechanical pump forcing Sub Antarctic water North along the coast of America.
The “positive pressure” caused by Drake Passage would stop the oceanic current from significantly dispersing back into the Sub Antarctic current which means that “mechanically pumped oceanic current pressure” can only be released North of Australia into the Indian Ocean and up to the Arctic between Russia and Alaska. Ignore the Panama canal. (satire)
Summer and winter oceanic warming and cooling will play a part but the moon is the most probable significant trigger for changing the spacial dispersal dynamics of that “pumped water” and it will contribute to El Nino and Arctic Ocean temperature change (can I use the word change here) is a fact but to what degree is moot.
I am an uneducated non scientist so this is “Matt’s Musings” not a hypothesis.
Cheers Herb Matt
Matt
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Further clarification. ” there is some clock work cyclic mechanism”.
The clock work mechanism frequency is likely altered by the moons cycles being independent of the solstice, equinox cycles.
The moon is really an elephant. (in the room)
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Hi again Matt,
Question.El Nino got its name from its re-occurrence at Christmas on the Roman solar calendar. If it was triggered by the moon wouldn’t it more closely align with the Easter Orthodox Christmas which is based on a lunar calendar?
Herb
MattH
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Hi Herb. My clarification above covers it.
I have not encountered any correlation between moon cycles and El Nino, nor have I seen Drake passage constriction being acknowledged in forcing Pacific water into the arctic and whether that influences the remnants of the Gulf stream to terminate and turn around where it does, North East of Norway.
I have not seen mentioned the moon does not force tides at the North pole other than those caused by the North -South extremes of the moon’.s cyclic oscillations , 14 days I believe, and 18 and a bit year cycle of “lunar standstill” cycles which are the Northern and Southern extremes of lunar cycles.
Those Southern and Northern extremes coincide with lunar perigee in around 14 years but will anybody correlate anything or will CO2 usurp the moon’s influences.
So really Herb and readers, I am asking questions and pointing to basic powerful influences that are often ignored and overlooked.
Multiple hypothesis is often overlooked creating blind spots.
Thank you for the interest Herb and lets throw some further observations on the subject into the ring at a future time.
In my above comments I mention 6,000,000 kilometres when that should read miles for sun-earth perigee which of course is around eleven days after the Southern Hemisphere Southern Solstice.
Kind regards. Matt
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Matt
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Summer Solstice
Jerry Krause
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Hi MattH,
You are correct that ‘natural’ rain shadows are causedby ‘a dominate natural range of hills.” However, wind mills stop the ‘natural’ flow of the atmosphere. Therefore we are not dealing with a ‘natural’ atmospheric system. .Irrigation must change the ‘climate of the region in which it is done.
Have to go now but I will turn (hopefully), Jerry
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Jerry Krause
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Hi MattH,
“ ‘Changing Times’ We live in a world of increasing rapid change. It has been said that the only constant is change itself. At present, we are facing some of the greatest problems that humans have ever encountered, and the dilemmas with which are now confronted seem to have no perfect solutions. We are sometimes forced to make a best choice among only bad alternatives, and our decisions often provide only temporary solutions to our problems. Nevertheless, if we are to choose properly, we must understand what our choices are. Mistakes can be costly, and they cannot always be rectified. It is easy to pollute, but cleaning up pollution once it is there is enormously expensive. We can best avoid mistakes by collecting as much information as possible before making critical decisions. Science is a means of gathering and evaluating information, and chemistry is central to all the sciences. (John W. Hill, ‘Chemistry For Changing Times’ 6th Ed., 1992)
I have to forgive Hill for focusing specifically upon ‘the problem of pollution’. For chemists are paranoid because all these pollutants are chemicals and many of these pollutants are artificial molecules that chemists have made. Even though many of these artificial molecules have greatly improved the ‘quality of life’ for many of this world’s inhabitants, it seems ‘the glass is always half-empty’.
Have a good day, Jerry
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MattH
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Question! Is anybody aware of tornadoes getting amongst wind turbines and what the outcome was?
Thank you all.
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tom0mason
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MattH,
You may find these interesting …
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Matt
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Thank you Tom.
I could almost hear the tornado say to the wind turbine, “get out of my way, fool” as the wind turbine blade is torn away.
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tom0mason
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🙂 yes Matt,
From windfarms to flying shrapnel.
My thoughts, being from an engineering background (mostly maintenance and repair), is that all the wind turbines that appeared to be undamaged in the area should require full inspection, testing, and be recertified. That is more expense for the owner/operator and probably increases cost all round.
Windfarms in a known tornado area is a dumb idea, I can only think that putting solar panels in such an area would be more stupid!
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MattH
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Apology and correction.
I have only read Viv mentioning the moon as a contributor to climate, not El Nino events.
My error.
Regards Matt.
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