Don’t Blindly Follow ‘The Science’, Rather Lead Humbly with Science
I am pleased to see the US House of Representatives bring experienced physicians to Capitol Hill who have seen patients face to face throughout the pandemic
Original observations from the bedside, exam room, and laboratory have proved to be invaluable in understanding the real impact of SARS-CoV-2 infection and genetic COVID-19 vaccination.
In this substack we feature internist, Dr. Jordan Vaughn.
Dr. Jordan Vaughn is the Founder and President of the Microvascular Research Foundation, a not-for-profit organization dedicated to developing effective, research-based treatment protocols for patients suffering from long COVID.
Dr. Vaughn also co-hosts a weekly podcast with Dr. Stewart Tankersley on America Out Loud. Past episodes of their podcast, Pulse, can be found here.
Session Witnesses:
- Dr. Philip Krause, MD, former Deputy Director, FDA Office of Vaccines Research & Review – testimony
- Aaron Siri, JD, Vaccine litigation expert – testimony
- Jordan Vaughn, MD, Internal Medicine, Birmingham, Founder and President of Microvascular Research Foundation- testimony
- Andrew Tobias Pavia MD, FAAP, FACP, FIDSA, FSHEA, Chief, Division of Pediatric Infectious Diseases and Geographic Medicine George and Esther Gross Presidential Professor, Department of Pediatrics University of Utah School of Medicine – testimony
“The House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Administrative State, Regulatory Reform, and Antitrust will hold a hearing on Wednesday, June 26, 2024, at 10:00 a.m. ET.
The hearing, “Follow the Science?: Oversight of the Biden Covid-19 Administrative State Response,” will discuss the Subcommittee’s oversight that found how the Biden Administration pressured the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to “cut corners” and lower agency standards to approve the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine and authorize boosters.
This approval enabled the Biden administration to mandate the vaccine, despite concerns that the vaccine was causing injury among otherwise healthy young Americans.
Congress needs to address reforms to the administrative state to bring accountability to its agencies, particularly when it comes to the process of approving vaccines.”
Listen to Vaughn’s prepared remarks delivered on June 26, 2024 for lawmakers at the US House of Representatives Judiciary Committee chaired by Rep Jim Jordan.
The session was aptly titled: “Follow the Science: Oversight of the Biden COVID-19 Administrative State Response”
His closer was a remarkable positioning of “science”—a world slung around Washington in the pandemic hubris of government agencies, White House Coronavirus Task Force, and Presidential Advisor, Dr. Anthony Fauci.
None of whom could be considered a leader or humble.
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Wisenox
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“Science” is blind, no pun intended.
As an update to my number theory babble, it turns out I was looking at a torus, from the inside. Probably explains why phi appeared to pull pi off course.
Pretty interesting stuff. Imagine 1/4 circle with spaced lines projecting. If you take a 0.5 line, you start down a 1/7 line that creates Pi. 1/7=0.571428, and the 1st 3 out are 1.57, 3.14, and 6.28 at the 1, 2, 4 respectively. Travel 38.3 degrees and you bump into a phi line, which has corresponding points of 3.09 for 2 and 6.18 for 4. So, travel the right arrangement and you create a platonic solid, take a left turn at Albuquerque and you might make a circle. This then loops, with each successive turn adding to the repeating decimal irrational number; possibly. Also, maybe Riemann’s 1/2 is a tangent and the critical line is the balance where they zero out?
Last, during my chase for 741, I encountered missing information. Specifically, the difference between 1/7 and Pi. I found it in the data, but it’s reversed because I chose to go inside the mirror. I need 0.307307307 to be 3.703703703. How do I get to the other side? Are the missing informations held in zero?
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Wisenox
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So, I found the megalithic yard in the data. It’s the proper unit of measurement, but we aren’t using it. At least, the people aren’t using it. The unit was reportedly used to build the Pentagon and Stonehenge.
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Herb Rose
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Hi Wisenox,
Why are the numbers found in reality called irrational numbers while digital numbers, which an approximation, called real numbers?
Herb
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Howdy
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Why does science have to lead? It is so easily corrupted. I see it as an alternative – a choice from several routes, nothing more.
Championing science above all is itself, lack of humility.
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Howdy
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Get your teeth into this:
“It is the point at which physical science reaches its limits of definition. Since it is defined as the science of the observable – that is, of the five senses plus any material augmentations – it cannot, by definition, speak of that which is “outside” space or “before” time. Were it to do so, it would cease to be “science” in the modern definition of the word.”
“In other words “science” (i.e. physical science) cannot by definition answer the question of the origin of the universe.”
http://www.mother-god.com/origin-of-the-universe.html
Perhaps follow up with this:
“We place “science” in inverted commas, because the word science (scientia) means simply “knowledge”, so the current custom of using the word “science” to mean physical science alone (or “physics” in the traditional sense) is inherently tendentious.”
http://www.mother-god.com/metaphysics.html
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Saeed Qureshi
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The issue is not “Following the Science” or “Leading the Science.” The issue is “The Science of Doctors,” which is not science. Doctors are not trained or practiced in (actual) science. Hence, their views and advice about science cannot be correct or avoided. Use caution.
https://bioanalyticx.com/an-m-d-degree-is-not-a-science-degree/
https://bioanalyticx.com/comments-on-the-article-do-viruses-exist-by-michael-palmer-m-d-and-sucharit-bhakdi-m-d/
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Orlandobass
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That poses a good question. Would medicine be considered a “hard” science such as quantum physics or cosmology? I know a lot of students prior to med school study biology or, to an extent chemistry, but other than that, do they really do much to engage in the scientific method?
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Saeed Qureshi
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Medicines are chemical-based, often pure chemicals; therefore, they must be part of “hard” science, i.e., chemistry. Medical experts (doctors) described chemistry not knowing or learning it and made false and fraudulent claims. For example, the virus has been isolated, which is not a valid claim because the end results of isolation mean having the thing in hand. They consider “virus isolate” an “isolated virus” the same. This is a example of ignorance and incompetency in science. They develop vaccines (chemicals) without testing against the virus or its illness. How can this be scientific?
If one sees the training and curriculum of medical training, it will be evident that they never studied or trained in science.
1. Practice of medicine – the fatal mindset https://bioanalyticx.com/practice-of-medicine-the-fatal-mindset/
2. Addressing The Issues Of Medicines And Their “Science” https://bioanalyticx.com/addressing-the-issues-of-medicines-and-their-science/
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Orlandobass
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Thanks for your reply. Excellent point about virus isolate and isolated virus.
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Saeed,
“Medical experts (doctors) described chemistry not knowing or learning it and made false and fraudulent claims.”
As a chemist and teacher of chemistry, I can assure you that doctors are not the only students that don’t understand (learn) chemistry. But less one blames the chemistry teacher, I discovered, near the end of my teaching career, this quote of. Galileo, a mathematics teacher of geometry:. “We cannot teach people anything; we can only help them discover it within themselves.”
Which promotes the queation’ How do we help them to discover it in themselves? I read that Socrates was a great teacher and it seems common knowledge that he taught by only asking his students question and let them discuss possible answers among themselves before asking another question.
Have a good day
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Saeed Qureshi
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Thanks, Jerry, for your interesting comments. In modern times, not only chemistry but science (physics, chemistry, and/or mathematics), in general, has all been destroyed by opportunists and not-so-honest experts by labeling themselves as scientists.
Maybe it is worth watching this short video clip, telling you how far society has gone in disrespecting/insulting education, science, and its teachers. We are up against these “experts.”
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?mibextid=oFDknk&v=947468506971701&rdid=EpKxrZhEmSqKtmI2
I don’t know how one would reverse this trend. I am trying to give my two cents’ worth, pray, and hope for the best. I am also looking for suggestions from others.
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Chemistry ONLY hard, true, 100% provable ‘science’. Everything else is trial and error, theory and estimation, experimental and open to failure.
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Herb Rose
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Hi Seriously,
No such thing as settled “provable” science.
Herb
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Saeed Qureshi
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Hi Seriously:
I agree with your view on chemistry and consider it valid for science (physics, chemistry and/or mathematics).
Herb Rose: You stretched Seriously’s view a bit far, which was not intended. Nothing in this world is “settled provable,” but we work within certain acceptable limits, and science is pretty good within those limits.
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Herb Rose
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Hi Saeed,
Chemistry tries to group elements into groups with similar properties but every element has different behavior and characteristics.
We may say the Noble Gases have full electron shells and are un-reactive but the larger ones do form chemical bonds. Carbon is a non-metal element that can form metallic bonds and act like a metal. A benzene ring contains bonds that are neither single or double but in between and there are bonds that are both covalent and ionic.
Chemistry is like the Chinese alphabet where every unit is a distinct word. In physics there are accepted absolute rules that are followed without exceptions.
There are no “laws” of chemistry only generalities.
Herb
Saeed Qureshi
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Herb Rose:
I am not sure what you are trying to say. Indeed, there are different forms, reproducible and repeatable variations, explainable and predictable by understanding the principle of science, particularly physics.
Are you saying that water exists in three phases, which means the chemistry of water is not settled or unproven?
Jerry Krause
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Hi Herb,
“There are no “laws” of chemistry only generalities.” Herb
Absolutely TRUE
Have a good day, Jerry
Herb Rose
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Hi Saeed,
What I am saying is that we do not now know why chemistry behaves the way it does. Electrons do not want to form pairs, they want to be as far apart as possible. It is the attractive force from nuclei that cause molecules to form. It is the repelling force of electrons that prevent two atoms from forming a larger element.
There are 4 phases of water: gas, liquid, liquid crystal, and solid. The water coming from a tea kettle appears as a clear gas, becomes visible liquid droplets, then disappears before reappearing again as a liquid’ and finally becoming a solid. A phase chart of water shows that at standard pressure water does not exist as a gas below its boiling point.
Since its molecular weight is less than O2 or N2 it should be a gas concentrating at the top of the atmosphere instead of being almost exclusively found in the troposphere.
Water is the least understood molecule despite being the most common. Read what James McGinn and Dr. Gerald Pollack have written about water to explain its peculiar properties and chemistry.
Herb
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Hi again Saeed,
Because of its polar properties water forms structures around particles with charges, like plastic in a mold. Could it be that diseases are caused by particles that produce a crystal structure in water that interfere with the structures of water that our bodies produce and the breaking of the disease by a fever is the result of heat altering the structure of the foreign crystal?
Herb
Saeed Qureshi
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Hi Herb Rose:
@ “What I am saying is that we do not now know why chemistry behaves the way it does. Electrons do not want to form pairs, they want to be as far apart as possible. It is the attractive force from nuclei that cause molecules to form. It is the repelling force of electrons that prevent two atoms from forming a larger element.”
Is it a chemistry issue? I think it is physics to explain.
However, it is beside the point. The discussion here is very much of the topic. The topic is whether science is involved in virology/medical science or if virology/medical science is science or not. Physics, chemistry and/or mathematics are considered science or science subjects as a reference, noting that there are exceptions to rules. Considering the well-established rules/principles/practices, science/chemistry explained things well and helped expose the deception or fraud of virology and medical science.
Let us limit our discussion to this aspect.
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Hi Herb,
you wrote: “A phase chart of water shows that at standard pressure water does not exist as a gas below its boiling point.”
That is am idea stated by James McGinn over and over. Unfortunately we cannot look at the phase diagram being referenced without writing an aortic;e and submitting it so other PSI readers can see to what is being referred. A picture is worth a thousand words and I do not believe a 1000 words could describe the SIMPLE phase diagram. Because of age problem I am no longer capable of doing what needs to be done.
So I ask is any oner capable pf submitting a phase diagram as an article so we can comment about it?
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Hi Saeed,
I did watch a quite a bit of the video but it seemed it had not yet ended when I stopped watching.
I wlll tell you about my teaching of Chemistry at a small community where I became a one-person chemistry department. Now a fact is that the Americans Chemical Society (ACS) has a chemical education division and in the late 1980s experienced professors at many major and minor universities observed the fact that their best students could not perform at the level of their previous students. For the Dept. of Education yearly wrote standardized tests of all common chemistry courses that a chemistry major was required, by the ACS, to take.
And I experimented with my introductary course. which met for 5 hours a week, a recitation hour was considered a lecture. Now I knew I never learned any chemistry in a lecture, even is I loyally attended lectures. And I know that learn chemistry by reading the textbook and worked at answering the assigned questions and the assigned problems that the author of the textbook had provided. And that was really driven home in grad school. So I eliminated the 4 hours of actual lecture and made myself available in my office 40 hours a week for students who were having problems doing the homework assignments.
When I instituted this NEW curriculum in the fall quarter, I got visits the next day from M.D.s who told me I could not teach chemistry without the traditional lectures. But I was hired to teach chemistry and I had testing evidence that students were learning chemistry.
However, at this time a student in another course which did have the standard ;lecture formate, earned a D when she required a C for her planned career path. So she charged me, the college president, and a state college board, with sexual and racial discrimination in federal district court and then, when the charge was dismissed, appealed that decision to the court of appeals which she also lost.
However the college president settled out of court to avoid publicity and then tried to dismiss me. So I negotiated a golden parachute and retired.
Hi Saeed,
I watched your video and tried to write a long comment for several hours (because pf age problems) and then I somehow deleted it. I might try to make a better reply later, but certainly not to day.
Given what you have written I really want to have a discussion with you. So maybe tomorrow I can compose a better and shorter comment.
Have a good day
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Jerry Krause
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Some how the lost is found but I will study it and see if I can improve it
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Saeed Qureshi
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Hi Jerry:
I hear your frustration, and this is how they kept science/chemistry out of education to protect the fake science of medical and pharmaceutical sciences.
I can share one of my experiences in this regard. In the late sixties and early seventies, when I was studying science/chemistry (along with physics and mathematics) as a graduate/postgraduate student, I remember the university started a pharmacy department in a small house-sized building.
I visited the pharmacy department at their invitation in 2009 to give a seminar on the quality assessment of pharmaceutical products (using the drug dissolution technique – the backbone of quality testing). I saw the pharmacy department was expanded by swallowing the whole chemistry department space and the adjacent chemical technology faculty space. They probably expanded even further during the past fifteen years.
While visiting the department, a senior lecturer/professor showed me a dissolution tester sitting in a locked room in the original wrap, asking my help to train them to use the machine and its science. No one there was considered competent to operate and use it, with all their learning and expertise in pharmacy. I expressed my willingness to help them whenever I visit the country so it will not cost them anything.
However, I never received a call back from them. The reason is that during the seminar, I explained to them how current drug dissolution testing approaches are unscientific and cannot determine valid dissolution characteristics and, by extension, the product quality. Their jaws fell, and they got very nervous as their “science” was exposed as fake and false.
That is the end of the story; everyone in pharmaceutical science, like in medical science, continues as “modern science” (only understandable to these two faculties) and tries their best to push actual science/chemistry into a corner. This is where we are now, and the public is getting new “illnesses” and their “treatments” from these fake science experts.
Have you seen the sizes of the “health science” buildings and their funding/budgets? However, they could not produce a specimen of the “virus” – modern-day science experts and scientists.
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Saeed,
You wrote: “I visited the pharmacy department at their invitation in 2009 to give a seminar on the quality assessment of pharmaceutical products (using the drug dissolution technique – the backbone of quality testing).”
What is “the drug dissolution technique”? I’ve never read about it.
Have a good day
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Saeed,
Here goes nothing if you do not respond to my questions. Can you “think” without using words?
Have a good day
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Saeed Qureshi
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Oops!
What do you mean? Please use words to respond and explain. Thanks.
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Jerry Krause
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hi Saeed,
Because you didn’t respond to my question with either the word “yes” or “no” I don’t resond to your request. I asked a question to which only you know the answer. I now ask another to see if might help you understand the purpose of my first question.
Einsteirn has written “The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but Imagination.” and “Imagination is more important than knowledge. In ten words or less explain, using some scientific words, why you think Einstein concluded this?
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Saeed Qureshi
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Jerry:
Could you please repeat the first question? I think I didn’t understand. I’ll be happy to respond.
Concerning the second question which you asked. “The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but Imagination.” and “Imagination is more important than knowledge.” My answer is NO. I do not consider imagination to be more important than knowledge.
For example, virologists and doctors imagine things (e.g., viruses) that do not exist, and knowledge can refute them. Hence, I consider virologists and medical doctors not knowledgeable or intelligent.
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Howdy
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“Can you “think” without using words?”
I believe Jerry is referring to imagination, Dr Qureshi.
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Herb Rose
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Hellen Keller became blind and deaf when she was 19 months old. She was able to think and learned to speak.
There are lots of people who have a good vocabulary but are unable to think.
Saeed Qureshi
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Thanks, Howdy, for the clarification. I responded to Jerry’s comment below.
Jerry Krause
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Hi Herb,
Good comment. What can we learn from Helen’s experiences?
What was the first thing that Ann Sullivan taught her?
Have a good day
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Saeed,
My thoughts, reasoning, pondering are all based upon the definitions (more words) of words. As a chemist have to imagine that matter is composed of ATOMS, which Dalton never saw by using an instrument like a microscope. He had explain what was seen by imagining there were ATOMs. And for nearly a CENTURY Dalton and others had no idea what an atom was. But they knew there were atoms of different elements and based upon the observed physical and chemical of this elementary matter a diagram, a physical scientific Law, of this elementary matter was constructed before it was considered that matter was composed on these imaginary atoms.. I stop here to learn if you see, imagine, what my words mean.
Have a good day
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Saeed Qureshi
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Hi Jerry:
I hope you are not comparing Dalton with the doctors/”scientists” in the FDA/CDC regarding immigration.
I do not believe Dalton imagined things (atoms); he explained (EXISTING) things based on his knowledge and expertise, which were later shown to be correct.
If you are referring to viruses and virology (imagining viruses and illnesses, like atoms and chemical reactions). In that case, they do not fall in the imagination category, but the hallucinations. They imagine or claim to be working with things that do not exist.
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Saeed,
Your opening statement “I hope you are not comparing Dalton with the doctors/”scientists” in the FDA/CDC regarding immigration.” This is evidence that you refuse to consider the actual history of CHEMISRTY and how chemists have acquired their CHEMICAL KNOWLEDGE.
The “FDA/CDC” did not exist when Dalton offered his reasoning and experimental result that MATTER WAS COMPOSED OF TINY PARTICALS WHICH HE NAMED ATOMS. For he knew the history that others before him had considered the idea that matter was composed of atoms which were and are too small to be directly seen with any instrument. But he did not conclude that they did not exist because they had not been seen; as you see to do in the case of any possible virus particles. I have friends who have died of something. The is my evidence that tiny ‘unseeable’ viruses might (could) exist.
Have a good day
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Saeed Qureshi
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Hi Jerry:
You are now arguing for the sake of arguing. I am not into it. I am sorry.
Regarding, “I have friends who have died of something. The is my evidence that tiny ‘unseeable’ viruses might (could) exist.”
Everyone dies, in many cases, without a knowable cause. That does not mean one should start virology (makeup science) with imaginary illnesses and/or viruses. To consider something as cause, there has to be some reason.
Leaving it as “something,” not a virus, is a better choice that allows the scientists/chemists to try to find out the cause by isolating the caustic agent, which could very well be a chemical entity, new or old, or maybe just in abnormally higher or lower concentrations than normal. However, the investigation has to come out of the cult of medicines.
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Saeed,
When I read there has been 26 comment I began reviewing what everyone had written. This article is very good and most of the comments seemed deal with the topic ( of the article.. As reviewed I found I have overlooked a statement of yours. “For example, virologists and doctors imagine things (e.g., viruses) that do not exist, and knowledge can refute them.” (July 5, 2024 at 5:44pm)
I now see a possible reason I didn’t read it because in your previous paragraph you had answered NO.
Einstein stated: “No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment cab prove me wrong.” I ask: Whose knowledge can prove any scientific idea wrong?
Have a good day
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Saeed Qureshi
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@ “Whose knowledge can prove any scientific idea wrong?”
The one who has the knowledge and expertise in the area under discussion. For example, if the discussion concerns science (isolation of particles, molecules, or compounds), one should go with the scientist with knowledge and expertise in the area/chemistry. Not of doctors or virologists/biologists who do not have knowledge and expertise in the area.
I hope this will help.
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MICHAEL CLARKE
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H Jerry, you are a very good advocate for common sense,
However when confronted with an absolute rejection you diverge.
When someone says ‘These particle cannnot exist’ Ask for the evidence, don’t acept their statement!
I enjoy looking and reading stuff still having read Gaalelios original all those 75 years ago!
Now that was a perferct example of cause and effect being observed. Sadly dissmissed for a few centuries!
For those that don’t know me I read the Galaio in it’s original italian at age 10 with the hel;p of an Itallian prisoner or war way back in 1947/8.
Hard work and well worth the effort!
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Michael and Herb.,
Michael, thanks for the critical advice.
Herb, what is your evidence that water molecule;s (a gas) do not exist below 100C near the earth’s surface?
Have a good day
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Hi Jerry,
If you look at the gases in the atmosphere you will find there is a stratification based on energy and mass. In order to attain a higher altitude a gas molecule must overcome the force of gravity. (At absolute 0 the gases would be solids on the surface.) Just as you need more energy to propel a heavier rocket into a high orbit, the gas molecules at the surface must have more kinetic energy to reach a higher altitude.(actually transferring energy to higher molecules through collisions). Argon with a molecular weight of 40 is confined to the troposphere while O2 and N2 (mw 32 and 28) escape the troposphere into the upper atmosphere.
At the very top of the atmosphere we find hydrogen and helium. Below this we find helium, oxygen atoms, and neon.
A water molecule has a molecular weight of 18 and yet it is almost exclusively (99.9+%) confined to the troposphere, instead of being found in the top layers. This is evidence that the water in the atmosphere has a molecular weight greater than the 40 of argon and is not a single molecule.
Herb
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Jerry Krause
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Herb.
“If you look at the gases in the atmosphere you will find there is a stratification based on energy and mass.” Where os the evidence that the atmosphere is stratified on the basis of mass?
Thank you Michael.
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Herb Rose
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I just listed it. Look up composition of the atmosphere.
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Herb.
How would you explain a “comet tail”?
Have a good day
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Herb Rose
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A comet is not in the Earth’s atmosphere. As a comet travels from the edge of the solar system towards the sun, the energy radiating from the sun vaporizes various chemicals on the comet at different distance from the sun.. This is why the “tail” precedes the comet on its trip back into space. The Earth orbits in the area where water boils off the comets and it collets that water. The small amount of water in the upper atmosphere is a result of the water condensing in the Earth’s shadow and falling to Earth.
Herb
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Herb,
I agree with your explanation. But my purpose was to ask you explain why the vaporized gases of the incoming comet, still very far, maybe at the distance or Mars, or even Jupiter, from the sim, began to condense back to liquids or solids in the assumed nothingness of space. Which I now have.
Have a good day
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Commenters,
47 comments as I begin this and much knowledge (my opinion). Before I wrote the following, did anyone know that grapes needed to be treated with very dilute solutions of lye (KOH) to make raisins? Now there will be 48 comments. and hopefully more. se we all can learn this chemistry.
Have a good day
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Michael Clarke,
I address this comment to Michael because I am quite sure that he like regular commenters are regularly checking the recent comments list. And I am writing this comment to save this article and the 48 comments from becoming forgotten HISTORY..
I ask you Michael, have you ever read “Weather and Climate” (1966) by R.C. Sutcliffe, R.R.S. In his preface he began: “This is not textbook on meteorology, neither a general introduction a formal course, but it has a serious purpose and that is to explain to the general reader whaat it is that meteorologists are doing and trying to do.”
Since I read a lot, I can assure you Michael and any other readers of this comment that he did an excellent job of doing this even though he is confused at times. For on the 3rd page [page 13 of the book] of the first chapter he wrote: “meteorology is not a fundamental physical science. …” Then on page 48 he wrote “The answer is that the natural atmosphere, however clean it may appear to be, is always supplied with a sufficient number of minute particles of salts, acids or substances which serve just as well as liquid water in capturing water molecules from the vapor [gas phase].” He seems to not recognize that this statemen is a physical law of meteorology.
I ask you (Michael), do you know about this fundamental law of PHYSICAL SCIENCE?
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Herb,
The physical law that Sutcliffe informed his readers about, is the reason I called your attention to the natural phenomenon of comets which Newton wrote about in The Principia. He didn’t need his telescope to see the comet tails which formed behind the incoming comet nucleus and having observed dew forming cold surfaces questioned if these assumed tails of condensed water were how the earth had so much liquid and solid water.
I accept in science there must be some observable evidence for a “scientist” to explain (reason, ponder). A scientist cannot sit in a fireplace and dream as a philosopher does.
So, Herb write that I am stupid and ignore what others, have written:; but dp have a good day.
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Herb RoSE
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Jerry,
We see comet’s tail in the shadow of the comet as it approaches and leaves the inner solar system. From that evidence we must concluded that space contains a high concentration of particle for water to condense on. Either that or SUtcliffe’s assertion that there must be a nuclei for water to condense into droplets is wrong. Exactly what was his evidence supporting his contention? Was he taken by aliens into the upper atmosphere to see these particles or did he just assume that since rain droplets falling through the atmosphere have particles, that they had to get these particles when forming, not while falling through the air?
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Jerry Kraise
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Hi Herb,
Have you made any effort to read one word from Sutcliffe”s book? Newton started the he stood of the shoulders of giants. Have you ever been invited to write a book like Sutcliffe had?
Have a good day
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Moderater
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Herb,
“We see comet’s tail in the shadow of the comet as it approaches”. Show me the evidence.
Have a good day
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Herb Rose
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Jerry,
Comets are not coming towards the Earth but towards the sun. We are in an orbit around the sun so we see a side view of the comet as it approaches the sun. The scattering of the light in the tail is like the scattering of light in clouds. The particles are not emitting light.
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Jerry krause,
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I was asking for the evidence that a comet or its tail casts a shadow.
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Herb Rose
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Anything that blocks the flow of light casts a shadow. Are you trying to be stupid?
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Jerry Krause
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Hi PSI Readers,
Check out Trump and JD Vance. , Maybe a new era in our world.
Have a good day
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Michael Clarke,
Farmers, grain elevators, and silos. You are the only person I know who maybe can explain that which I know I cannot. But I know I have learned to observe the obvious. Which was the downward force of gravity at the earth’s poles is approximately the same at that of the equator.
Buckminister Fuller was very creative. And one of his ideas was the around, corrugated steel, grain bins as the economical frame work of houses. As a farmer was very familiar with these grain bins and silos constructed of concrete slabs held to gather with rings of steel rods. And the numnrt and/or diameter of these rods decreased with the increasing height of the concrete slabs because the horizontal, outward, pressure decreased with increasing height.
And I knew that the filled silo or grain bin was stronger than an empty one. For winds exerted inward pressure on the skin of the round silos or grain bins and the surface area of the “walls” became an important, critical factor of an empty silo or grain bin. I stop here because if one does not see the problem of sizing the circular, structural walls I doubt if more words will help.
If one needs help to understand the practical issues involved, talk with a Civil Engineer, not a SCIENTIST like myself. Michael, you are practical and understand mathematics and I only know how to solve simple problems with mathematics.
Have a good day
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