Bite Sized NIBLETS – Article Number 2 – Greenplate Effect Fail
This is the second in a series of Bite Sized Niblet articles which will quickly and simply deal with a wide array of errors, or the “TALL TALE TEACHERS TELL” in preaching the fake science of a non-existent climate crisis. In this article we see demonstrated that The Greenplate Effect is a lie.
This is the fake effect whereby, if you place one plate behind another in space, the temperature of the first plate is increased by the presence of the 2nd plate, due to the well known pretense called back radiance.
The consensus diagrams of fake global warming science are shown below.
In both instances the pretend maths shows 1367W total in and 1367W total out and it all looks as if it’s real and works. It isn’t and it doesn’t.
In in the first niblet I described how the temperature of a flat plate in space perpendicular to the suns rays achieves a steady state temperature of 394K. (which it does, as confirmed by NASA shown at www.grc.nasa.gov.) You can re-read that article here.
To all greenhouse gas theory promoters: you really do need to stop telling us realists (actual applied science devotees) that you know what’s happening when what you claim in your ‘theory’ cannot be backed up in reality. The 30-years-old climate crisis premised on greenhouse gas conjecture about human emissions of carbon dioxide is false.
And for all uninformed trolls who attack our empirically validated skeptic science with hand-waving and unsubstantiated disagreement, please offer your own space simulator test to prove otherwise. Navel gazing speculation and your mere thought experiments won’t do – it simply exposes unscientific ignorance. For those that don’t know what a space simulator is, a photo is below.
Watch and see in real time that when you place a second flat plate behind the first flat plate, the maximum steady state temperature of the first plate REMAINS UNCHANGED.
This is observable, repeatable, clear-cut experimental evidence. My work using a professionally fabricated portable testing rig can be re-read here https://principia-scientific.org/greenplate-effect-it-doesnt-happen/ and https://principia-scientific.org/greenplate-effect-it-does-not-happen-proof-no-2/. Doubters are invited to weigh the evidence presented and see for themselves.
In those tests what was measured is the temperature of a flat black plate on its own and then with a 2nd plate directly behind it. In the first set up they are set apart using physical spacers (small amount of conduction flow between plate 1 and 2) and in the second set up they are set apart using Velcro brackets off the glass chamber (no conduction flow between plate 1 and 2).
In both instances the first plate did not attain higher temperatures when the 2nd plate was present, neither did the first plate warm more quickly with the presence of the 2nd plate than without in a vacuum.
Two Plates Spaced with Spacers above heat source.
Two Plates Spaced with Brackets
Based upon the results of this test we can reasonably declare that in the real world the concept of heating from back radiance as a science is dead. It is a fantasy fiction fairy tale with no happy ending for climate alarmists. The doomsaying anti-CO2 scare story is nothing more than a fiction told to us for the sole purpose of scaring and defrauding the uninformed populace on a gargantuan scale.
To be clear; what is shown is that thermal flows occur only because of differentials in temperature from a source of higher temperature to a source of lower temperature. For laypersons, this is much like weather systems whereby wind (air) moves from high pressure to low pressure areas, and akin to potential difference in electrical circuits inducing current flow.
This truth applies not only to specific lab tests but to the whole planet and the universe as a whole. Therefore, every time some fake media scam artist speaks of the CO2 induced Climate Crisis, Global Warming or Radiation Greenhouse Effect, you know that real-world laboratory testing exposes their lies and pretend science.
All carbon emissions targets are rendered meaningless and can have no measurable effect on climate whatsoever. With no verifiable, hard evidence to support the fictitious greenhouse gas theory reason thus dictates that all CO2 taxes must be consigned to the trash can of bad policy.
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tom0mason
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Well done Geraint Hughes, physical evidence — the only way to go in real science!
All carbon emissions targets are rendered meaningless and can have no measurable effect on climate whatsoever. With no verifiable, hard evidence to support the fictitious greenhouse gas theory reason thus dictates that all CO2 taxes must be consigned to the trash can of bad policy.
Now ain’t that the truth!
Western nations are pissing their hard earned then taxed money into the UN’s bottomless pit of deception and lies.
This planet has warmed since the Little Ice Age just as nature intended. Human effect on this progression is all lost in the noise of NATURAL effects. CO2 as shown many time by Geraint Hughes and many others is nil on the climate! Global temperatures SHOULD rise if we are truly leaving the LIA. Global volumes of ice should decrease as we continue to leave the LIA. CO2 levels SHOULD rise as oceans warm and frozen tundras defrost, since the end of LIA.
All the Anthropogenic Global Warmers (aka climate catastrophists) have is the utterly unreliable climate models to go on. There is NO physical evidence that atmospheric CO2 warms the planet as their dumb theory says — it is a lie! A tiny change of 0.012% by volume (from 280ppmv in 1850 to 400ppmv recently) of atmospheric CO2 levels radically changes the climate is an utterly lunatic’s idea! All this from alarmist and faker who can NOT model the basic physics of how clouds operate! Modelers who misunderstand that when modeling a chaotic system (i.e. the climate system) the initial conditions are of prime importance as to the progression of the model — and NO the models are not initialized with anything like the conditions prevalent at the time they start a run on any climate model.
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Dr Roger Higgs
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The truth in 3 minutes …
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343818917_Mann_hockey_stick_ironically_proves_the_Sun_not_CO2_drives_climate
Thank you Geraint and John. Please keep up the noble battle for truth.
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lifeisthermal
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Wonderful, thank you!
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Koen Vogel
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You make a great point. I think the media and politicians’ focus on the temperature story is because it is easier to understand by the non-scientific community: global warming for dummies. A focus on energy – that can be added, subtracted, averaged, etc – is the way to go. And once you go down that road, you realize greenhouse effects are not up the task.
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Massimo Polo
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Great article. Thanks. Looking forward to next “chapters” !
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Massimo Polo
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I forgot to ask. What is the correct math (= that backed up by actual measurements) for the Case No.2. For Case 1 it’s pretty straightforward. Thanks. Max
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Guy
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Hi Geraint. In your book, Black Dragon, that I bought and read carefully, you calculates that the steady state temperature of a two sided plate perpendicular to the sunshine at earth orbit would be 331K and that the steady state temperature of a one sided plate would be 394K. So Why isn’t it true anymore here ?
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Jerry Krause
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Hi Geraint,
Why haven’t you replied to Guy’s question?
Have a good day, Jerry
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Geraint Hughes
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Read the article, it tells you why and you should read it in line with Niblet 1. In my book I explained how this is taught and above I explain how that teaching is wrong, now that I have proof that goes along with it.
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Joy
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