Are Viruses the Cause or Effect of Disease, or Are They Even Real?

Written by John O'Sullivan on . Posted in Current News

As COVID19 is shown not to be an infectious and deadly viral pathogen, key flaws in the pandemic’s accepted scientific narrative are being addressed. If a virus cannot be proven to cause disease then does it exist?

According to a seemingly non-controversial statement in Wikipedia a virus is:

“… a submicroscopic infectious agent that replicates only inside the living cells of an organism. Viruses infect all types of life forms, from animals and plants to microorganisms, including bacteria and archaea.”

There is wide scientific consensus that a virus is neither living or dead, but is an agent that requires a living cell to replicate, and it will cause infection and disease. Indeed, the peer-reviewed medical literature affirms that a virus is often referred to as a “parasite.” [1]

But during this insane pandemic dissenting researchers have come to the fore to argue that in empirical science no such ‘deadly virus’ has been reproduced in a laboratory. Freedom of Information (FOIA) requests to governments further show that none will claim they can demonstrate in the lab that SARS-CoV-2 is the causative agent of infection.

For example, ‘UK’s Govt Office For Science Admits No Proof Of Isolated ‘COVID-19 Virus’’, ‘The Non-Existent Virus; And The Implications’‘Even CDC Now Admits No ‘Gold Standard’ Of COVID19 Virus Isolate’,

Last year Principia Scientific International was the world’s first independent science association to declare there was no LAB proof of COVID19. Our expert in this field, Dr Saeed Qureshi, was at the forefront of calling out the fraud.

So, is virology in a mess over this? We share with readers some of our concerns on the key issues.

Crucially, as a science association strongly supportive of empiricism and the traditional scientific method (as extolled by Karl Popper) we question why modern medicine seems to have abandoned the standard measure of proving the existence of a disease – Koch’s postulates.

To our way of thinking Koch’s postulates appears to have been abandoned during the current pandemic. Not lost on us is the worrisome lack of post mortems being performed on so called victims of COVID19.

Even at the height of the Spanish Flu epidemic of 1918 evidence gathering via pathology was key. But now pathology is being bypassed in what seems a rush to accept an unproven panacea – mass vaccination with experimental gene therapy (mRNA).

When post mortems are carried out on supposed ‘COVID19 victims’ the results prove no such cause of death, as we showed in ‘ Top Pathologist: ‘NO ONE Has Died From The Coronavirus!’

The A high-profile European pathologist, Dr. Stoian Alexov called the World Health Organization (WHO) a “criminal medical organization” for creating worldwide fear and chaos without providing objectively verifiable proof of a pandemic.

 Dr. Alexov, Bulgarian Pathology Association (BPA) president added that with no hard evidence to prove the existence of any deadly virus it is “impossible” to create a vaccine against it.

Meanwhile, in the UK speaking to the Daily Record Scotland’s most eminent pathologist, Tony Busuttil, emeritus professor of forensic medicine at Edinburgh University, said:

“Without post-mortems, we can’t really say for sure what has gone on and why the patient has died and if we are to combat the new virus, we first have to understand its effects.”

In these dark days we lament the sweeping abandonment of the scientific method of replication and of demonstrating a cause and effect, as government ‘experts’ seemingly rush to chop and change medical policies on the fly and where ‘the cure is worse than the disease‘ becomes our ultimate nightmare.

The problems inherent in nations efficaciously tackling a pandemic and providing a coordinated medical response have been known to science since 1918 at the height of the Spanish Influenza epidemic and yet the medical science establishment prefers not to acknowledge this because to do so would likely invalidate a major cornerstone of allopathic germ theory.

Yet even New Scientist admits that:

“Medical and scientific experts now agree that bacteria, not influenza viruses, were the greatest cause of death during the 1918 flu pandemic.” [2]

On this issue, have a read of ‘The Truth About The 1918 ‘Viral Influenza’ Pandemic.’

Germ Theory views the human body as an uninfected biological system that must be defended against external attack. For over a century, Big Pharma has made big bucks from selling us potions to fend off ‘infections’ while denying the reality that a healthy immune system is the body’s own defense against disease (i.e prevention is better than cure).

As a seasoned professional science writer I have spent over a decade working with scientists to expose the lies about man-made global warming. That nonsense was premised on the false hypothesis, conceived in the minds of second rate academics, that a benign trace atmospheric gas, carbon dioxide – one of nature’s best cooling gases and widely used in industry as a refrigerant – somehow ‘traps heat’ and dangerously warms our planet.

Thankfully, a significant number of honest, empirical scientists have since abandoned that nonsense.

But correcting such entrenched misunderstandings can take decades of dedicated skeptical analysis and cold, hard critical reasoning to overturn a deeply-held visceral belief, a false scientific notion.

As such, just as with the false greenhouse gas theory of supposed CO2 warming, so with the consensus about virus theory which is now being methodically overturned despite the best efforts of corrupt politicians and corporations.

It is becoming harder for germ theory zealots to persuasively argue against the proposition that if a virus cannot be proven to be the agent for the transmission of disease, then the entire rational for lockdowns, social distancing and mask wearing to ward off infection should be consigned to history as an almighty public policy misstep based on junk science.

Among the most strident and highly qualified medical experts leading the paradigm shift is Dr. Andrew Kaufman whose research shows COVID-19 is an exosome which exists normally in our lung cell fluid. Dr Kaufman is a medical doctor, graduated in molecular Biology from Massachusetts Institute of Technology and involved in cancer medication and in medical data collection with the New York Health department and the CDC, then later specialized in psychiatry.

An excellent discussion by Kaufmann and medical colleagues on the issues is in this video:

https://youtu.be/roDGPZMev7s

In his presentation Dr Kaufmann correctly asserts that the COVID19 virus (Sars-Cov-2) has never been isolated. This is borne out by the numerous freedom of information (FOIA) requests to leading western governments who all admit their scientists possess no ‘gold standard’ isolate of the virus.

Of course, this is devastating to the claims of the pandemic fear-mongers because Dr Kaufmann goes on to explain how the ubiquitous PCR test used to ‘detect’ the virus is less than useful and was never designed as a diagnostic tool.

For well over a year we have endured the insanity of doctors using flawed PCR tests and erroneously ‘detecting’ a virus that is not proven to exist in science which then is used to justify a ‘vaccine’ not tailored to defeat a virus that has not been isolated! Circular insanity, if you will.

My success as a skeptic writer on the man-made global warming narrative has guided my research into this fascinating subject and the potential ramifications for the survival of humanity are no less dire.

Therefore the $64,000 question to governments and Big Pharma is: Wouldn’t you have to sequence the virus (obtain a ‘gold standard’ isolate) before you can make a PCR test for it and then a vaccine to effectively fight it?

Of course, no bribed/blackmailed/coerced quack, politician or mainstream media ‘journalist’ will ever come out to seriously answer this question and encourage open and honest debate.

But any good skeptic would want to uncover evidence antithetical to the points that Dr Kaufman raised, like an actual experiment that shows through the scientific method, that viruses are contagious pathogens spread from one person to another. Dr Kaufmann et al assert no such empirical science exists.

Though what other colleagues and myself at Principia Scientific International have found is that the PCR test may be the root of a mass deception because if it is run through too many cycles (25+) it will simply begin to tell you that almost any tiny remnants of RNA will create a false positive for COVID19.

This is why some fruits, goats, tap water, Coca-Cola and eventually ANYTHING are testing to be PCR positive but are false positives from a flawed test protocol (see: Some Fruit And A Goat Now Test COVID-19 Positive).

In our wider discussions on germ theory we asked such questions as: How does Polio spread if not by virus? Why has Smallpox been eradicated? In answer, we deduced that a key factor in modern disease eradication has been vast improvements in sanitation, infrastructure and hygiene. http://www.whale.to/vaccines/decline1.html

“The decline in infectious diseases in developed countries had nothing to do with vaccinations, but with the decline in poverty and hunger.”–Dr Buchwald, M.D.

“Up to 90% of the total decline in the death rate of children between 1860-1965 because of whooping cough, scarlet fever, diptheria, and measles occured before the introduction of immunisations and antibiotics.”—Dr Archie Kalokerinos, M.D.

Many such doctors and researchers have found that polio was caused by lead, mercury, and/or other types of chemical pollution, and then unscrupulous bad actors falsely blamed such poisoning on a virus so to avoid responsibility, as well as to fill the bank accounts of big pharma.

By doing your own research you will also uncover that the same type of misleading hypocrisy has been repeated for many other conditions which were more likely due to toxic pollution, but falsely blamed on viruses. https://theinfectiousmyth.com/polio-timeline.html

The thrust of what Dr Kaufmann and germ theory skeptics are saying is that while the COVID 19 pandemic has certainly put huge focus on detecting corona particles, they are not the CAUSE, they are the RESULT of disease.

They argue that the so-called current outbreak could be a mix of things including another unidentified influenza instead of the hype over a new corona virus particle.

Yet, even a non-scientist can simply examine the excess mortality data for the past 18 months and contrast and compare the data with death rates for the last 20 or 30 years and see for themselves that there is NOTHING unusual happening.

Death rates are, in fact, currently LOWER in many regions than in previous years. This is ‘Why We Must Question The COVID 19 Mortality Statistics.’

Senior Principia Scientific International scientist, Dr Saeed Qureshi addresses this issue in his article ‘Did COVID Cause ‘Excess Deaths?’where he shows, inter alia, that CDC numbers for excess deaths in 2020 show a 0.14% increase in the expected annual death numbers, well within normal variation. If anything ‘Covid-19 Vaccines Lead To New Infections And Mortality’

Are viruses really exosomes?

Have you heard of the emerging theory of what viruses might be: exosomes?

Are you absolutely certain that COVID-19 is contagious?

How confident are you in the results from the test?

Most of the case studies come from this paper by David Crowe, where he has all of his citations at the end: https://theinfectiousmyth.com/book/Co…

Look hard enough and you will see qualified scientists saying that exosomes are often indistinguishable from viruses. Exosomes are the same size as viruses (0.1 microns)—they do vary a little – but are mostly similar. They are secreted by cells and are extracellular vesicles that transport messages between cells to inform each other when they are in danger. [3]

Do Your Eyes Deceive You?

Look at the images below. Are they images of viruses or exosomes? Would you know the difference or do you rely on a government ‘expert’ to help you out?

 

Dr. Stefan Lanka, virologist and molecular biologist, is mostly known internationally as an “AIDS dissident” (and maybe “gentechnology dissident”) who has been questioning the very existence of “HIV” since 1994. He is a controversial figure vilified by the mainstream media (often a sign a ‘white hat’ is over the target exposing evil).

Although we used a Wikipedia quote at the top of this article it is worth noting that Wikipedia has banned Stephan Lanka’s page. Indeed, it also refuses to permit any entry for Principia Scientific International despite our 7,000+ STEM members and being a bona fide science association for over a decade.

For more than a year Wikipedia redirected ‘Lanka’ searches to a page on “HIV/AIDS denialism”. Now it redirects to some quack named David Bardens. To our way of thinking, this is pretty good evidence that the establishment fears Dr. Lanka. For your edification do check out the Wikipedia list of “germ theory denialists” and verify the qualifications of those cited: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_germ_theory_denialists

Dr. Lanka is certainly a thorn in the side of consensus thinkers and signaled a possible paradigm shift away from germ theory when he made his almost “legendary” Zenger´s interview:

“So, for a long time I studied virology, from the end to the beginning, from the beginning to the end, to be absolutely sure that there was no such thing as HIV. And it was easy for me to be sure about this because I realized that the whole group of viruses to which HIV is said to belong, the retroviruses – as well as other viruses which are claimed to be very dangerous – in fact do not exist at all.”

Dr Lanka and others have suggested that one of the keys to facilitate a mass deception about viruses was via the technology of the electron microscope which has radically affected modern medicine over the past 60 years. It is substantially thanks to electron microscopy that virology has been so persuasive. But all may not be as as it seems!

Questioning the iconic images of viruses we see splashed all over the media and in medical journals, Dr Lanka said:

“All these photos have in common that they, respectively the authors, can´t claim that they represent a virus, as long as they do not also provide the original publications which describe how and what from the virus has been isolated. Such original publications are cited nowhere.
Indeed, in the entire scientific medical literature there´s not even one publication, where the fulfillment of Koch´s first postulate is even claimed for such viruses. This means that there is no proof that the viruses held responsible for these diseases have been isolated from humans afflicted by them. Nevertheless, this is precisely what they publicly claim.”

It may yet be proven that vaccines per se may not be the solution to disease eradication because it may be shown that immunity does not come from antibodies. Antibodies are regulating agents. They are merely white blood cells that regulate infection, and thus, the healing process. Viruses may thus be shown to be simply part of the healing phase.

As explained at www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com we should be skeptical of these images because:

  1. Many of the photos are colored. This is proof enough, that they are the (art)work of designers, because electron microscopic photos always appear in black and white.

  2. The images of the so called HIV-, measles (Masern)- and smallpox (Pocken) viruses clearly show, as the image descriptions partly already indicate, that these are cells wherein the viruses can allegedly be found. Thus, nothing has been isolated. The photos actually show cells and typical endogenous particles in them. These structures are well known and serve the intra- and inter-cellular transport. Unlike viruses of the same kind – which are consistently the same size and same shape – they differ in size and shape and therefore can´t have been isolated.

  3. In the case of the influenza- herpes-, vaccinia-, polio-, adeno- and ebola-viruses each photo shows only a single particle; nobody claims that they´re isolated particles, let alone particles that have been isolated from humans.

These particles are partially the cellular particles mentioned above (#2) resp. typical artifacts which means: structures that accrue after inappropriate fixing and drying of the probes, while being prepared for the electron microscope.

  1. The “isolated” polio viruses are artificial particles, generated by suction of an indifferent mass through a very fine filter into a vacuum. Its structure (no characteristic structures) differ clearly from the ones of the “viruses” in the cells. Here the information is essential that a biochemical characterization of those “isolated” viruses, although “isolation” is claimed, has never been published anywhere nor has anybody even claimed such a characterization.

  2. The photo of the hepatitis B “viruses” does not show isolated structures, but – as the image title already says, an agglutinate. This is the scientific/medical term for proteins from the blood that are clumped together, as is typical for coagulations. Typically, round and also crystal structures accrue – depending on the condition of the blood sample – as a consequence .

“In summary, it must be said that these photos are an attempt of fraud committed by the researchers and medical scientists involved, as far as they assert that these structures are viruses or even isolated viruses. To what extent the involved journalists and authors of textbooks have contributed to this fraud knowingly or only out of gross negligence, I don´t know. Everyone who starts researching the medical literature, will quickly encounter statements and references that Koch´s first postulate can´t be fulfilled (i.e. Großgebauer: Eine kurze Geschichte der Mikroben, 1997 [“A short history of the microbes”]; editor: Verlag für angewandte Wissenschaft). How these authors who claim the existence of viruses could overlook that, remains a riddle.” [4]

Pro-vaccine advocates will obviously try to discredit Dr Lanka’s analyses, mostly because it undermines much of what we think we know about AIDS. However, Lanka has proven his mettle already by winning a benchmark court case in Germany, which seems to validate his science (image below).

In the informative video below Dr. Thomas Cowan discusses Virology with Dr. Stefan Lanka:

If the above video was of interest, check out the video below with the excellent Catherine Austin Fitts wherein Dr. Thomas Cowan suggests alternatives to the “germ theory” of disease and depicts Louis Pasteur, the leading proponent of germ theory, as a fraud.

Jeff Green is another emerging writer and researcher in this field and he tells us:

“People tell me all the time that they’ve gotten sick from their loved one, or they caught this virus or that virus from their loved one. I tell them that is what I term the ‘Illusion of Viral Activity’. This is because viruses and bacteria are cyclical in nature, occurring at the same time in the majority of the population each year. This happens because the body, on a cyclical basis, dumps mass stored toxins after a certain accumulation occurs over a period of time.” [5]

Like Dr Kaufmann Jeff Green points to the seasonality of so many mass ‘infections’ which occur every year; sometimes milder, sometimes stronger.

Kaufmann, Green et al. argue that seasonal variations in temperature and climate bring about the necessary signals for our bodies to begin a cyclical cleansing processes.

“When you have households that live together, they almost always eat the same foods, drink the same water, and breathe the same air; sharing identical habits. It is common for them to have similar detoxification times, therefore they will experience cold or flu around the same time. This does not mean viruses are contagious. Viruses and bacteria are not contagious. No virus is, “ says Green. [id.]

Where thinkers like Green and Kaufmann differ is regarding the difference between exosomes and viruses. Kaufmann goes as far as to say viruses may not even exist. Green believes they do.

Though critics of germ theory often do agree as to why we have a flu season—because changes in humidity, lack of sunlight in winter brings about bodily changes at the cellular level. ‘Flu season’ may therefore have to be re-named as ‘Low Vitamin D season.’

It is perfectly conceivable that bacteria (or virus) become manifest in winter in order to disassemble and break toxins down to be excreted from the body—via skin, mucus, respiratory system, and bowels. Coughing, sneezing, high fever symptoms associated with influenza may be all part of the body’s detox process. Many of us simply happen to detox at the same time seasonally and/or at times of extreme stress.

People have long bought into an illusion and believe influenza is contagious—that is the nature of mankind; they’re easily self-deceived by coincidences.

As Green tells us, health is rife with such mis-observations because it cannot be directly seen. Therefore, the answer is not obvious at first and is a complex puzzle for those that do not understand the nature of the body.

In reality it is no different than bears coming out of hibernation, or trees blossoming at the same time. Most do not all come out on the same day, but they gradually do so one after the other. In short, we should learn to focus on building a strong immune system and be wary of snake oil salesmen in Big Pharma foisting on us unproven potions for mythical diseases when the real cure is prevention through proper nutrition, avoiding stress and a healthy lifestyle.

Rest assured, this won’t be the last word on this evolving story. Many bad actors hold key positions in authority and are invested in maintaining the status quo. Only by concerted wider public action will the fraud be fully revealed and the masses awakened.

References:

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21523/

[2] https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14458-bacteria-were-the-real-killers-in-1918-flu-pandemic/

[3] https://virusesarenotcontagious.com/exosomes-vs-viruses/

[4] https://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/dr-stefan-lanka-debunks-pictures-of-isolated-viruses/

[5] https://virusesarenotcontagious.com/exosomes-vs-viruses/

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Read more by Jeff Green at virusesarenotcontagious.com

More by Dr Andrew Kaufmann at thebigvirushoax.com

More by Dr Stefan Lanka: Lanka’s papers on the virus misconception:

The Virus Misconception — Measles As an Example Part I

The Virus Misconception — Measles As an Example Part II

How Dead Are Virus Anyway? All Claims of Virus Existence Refuted

The Causes of Corona Crisis Are Clearly Identified — Virologists Who Claim Disease-Causing Viruses Are Science Fraudsters and Must Be Prosecuted

About John O’Sullivan John is CEO and co-founder (with Dr Tim Ball) of Principia Scientific International (PSI).  John is a seasoned science writer and legal analyst who assisted Dr Ball in defeating world leading climate expert, Michael ‘hockey stick’ Mann in the ‘science trial of the century‘. O’Sullivan is credited as the visionary who formed the original ‘Slayers’ group of scientists in 2010 who then collaborated in creating the world’s first full-volume debunk of the greenhouse gas theory plus their new follow-up book.

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    v

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    Very good and comprehensive piece.

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      Randy

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      No, it was garbage.

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        aaron

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        well then maybe you could state why you think so?

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            John O'Sullivan

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            Randy, Clearly you didn’t read the article. NOT ONE government that has answered freedom of information requests to show proof of having an isolate of COVID19 has claimed to have it. The papers you cite do NOT prove the isolation of a gold standard. It is gullible types like you that have permitted corrupt politicians to get away with genocide via this fake pandemic.

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            Chris

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            Lol, what evidence is there that sars2 exists? They haven’t found it in any person. The only “samples” of it are contaminated with monkey kidney tissue. The phe admission in foia requests are the easiest to find. They admit that there are no literature that refers to it anywhere that it has been found in a human. Covid19 is a hoax.

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    Photios

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    “As COVID19 is shown not to be an infectious and deadly viral pathogen…”
    Ehh…???? You lost me at that point. COVID 19 is a collection of symptoms.
    I see no point in reading further…

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    Guido FORRIER

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    indeed no reading further ! more about viruses : see ” virus spike protein ” on principla scientific dd. June 12 . it is a pity that a lot of articles here are simply rubbish .

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      Randy

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      Agreed. This was hot garbage.

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      Charles Higley

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      Spike protein is indeed how the purported “virus” attaches to cells, as do all coronaviruses, but the identical protein is used by us in many physiological processes—now why would that be?. That is why vaccinating people against their own protein is a big mistake.

      Is it not curious that they can only get a virus to grow in culture by starving the cells of nutrients? Healthy cells DO NOT get infected. However, Exosomes are produced by cells under many forms of stress and they are indistinguishable from coronaviruses in size, appearance, and spikes.

      Do not dismiss articles because they might challenge your understanding or misconceptions of a subject.

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        Randy

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        The only correct thing you wrote is that healthy cells do not get infected. That’s it. Sarascov2 is identifiable and is NOT an exosome. We have the exact genetic sequence, we’ve identified the engineered furin cleavage site, the hiv gp120 antigen and the unintended prion proteins at the tip of the spike protein as a result of these other 2 engineered insertions.

        You are replying with a bunch of misinformation. I’d recommend any e reading my comments to follow all the links I’ve provided and see for yourself that this commenter with the biology degree is very, very wrong.

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    Randy

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    This is pseudoscientific nonsense. Viruses exist. The sarscov2 virus exists. The proof is overwhelming. https://www.flemingmethod.com/documentation
    https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/01/30/on-the-origins-of-the-2019-ncov-virus-wuhan-china/

    Lanka, Kaufman & Cowan are embarrassingly wrong on this exosomes/viruses aren’t real nonsense. Exogenous viruses can absolutely cause disease when the host is either weak, toxic or nutritionally deficient. This article is complete garbage. Do better.

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      Charles Higley

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      Actually there is a lot of proof that exosomes serve to remove toxins and are produced under environmental and even mental stress. You can produce them quite easily in clean uninfected cultures. You denigrate articles out of ignorance as your rebuttal lack any depth. 9000 autopsies in Italy, while the WHO told all countries NNOT to do autopsies (why????), showed that NO ONE died of Cars-Cov2 but all did die of bacterial pneumonia with no detectable virus present at all. 1200 C-19 cases in Los Angeles, verified by six other university labs, showed that ALL, that is ALL, had influenza.

      I am a biochemist and taught molecular biology and genetics for years. Your knowledge filter is broken, clearly.

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        Randy

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        Who is denying the existence of exosomes? Viruses and exosomes are not the same . I don’t give a crap what your background is. I have researched this topic for years and provided voluminous proof the exact specs of the sarscov2 virus.

        Although deaths attributed to sarscov2 have been way overblown doesnt mean that no one succumbs to this virus. One modality of virtual replication and cellular destruction is via bradykinin & Cytokine storms within the cell when vitamin D is low the renin-angiotensin system cannot keep bradykinin levels in check.

        Your degree isn’t worth the paper it was printed on. Anyone denying the existence of viruses I find belong in the same category as flat Earhers & humans haven’t been on moon conspiracy theorists. Embarrassing.

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          John Alexander

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          What is embarrassing in fact cringeworthy are your asinine comments, You are clearly confused.
          You have an opinion and so do others. To retort with a insult like “Your degree isn’t worth the paper it was printed on” clearly shows your intolerance of others views.
          The proof of existence of viruses is not overwhelming. There are standard methodologies and tests required to prove existence which would include autopsies. There are many pathologists that have performed autopsies and have too concluded that their is no evidence of that SARS viruses or Covid exists. It has overwhelmed your closed mind though.
          You then have the audacity to whinge about being censored.I don’t see where you were censored unless you resorted to expletives and further childish insults which would deserve some censorship or reprimand.
          Now kindly try and strop “Forcing” your opinion on other commentators please.

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            Randy

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            He is getting a taste of his own medicine telling me my opinions are ignorant. Get over it.

            I just provided irrefutable overwhelming evidence with several links. I notice not one person holding on to their dogma of the “virus doesn’t exist” has anything meaningful to say about any of them. Not surprised.

            I will continue to back up my claims with evidence forcefully when I am being challenged on them. I will not stop. Kindly stop posting and actually start reading all of my links then come back with some intelligible critique if you want to have a meaningful debate.

            I have provided overwhelming evidence the virus exists. Stop projecting on to me a “closed mind”. It is you who has the closed mind.

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    Tom O

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    An interesting article, though too long for me to read in one setting. I do closed mind comments, like some showing here, as well, so I won’t comment on those that did them to this article.

    However, I can’t help but wonder why there was such a reaction to a non-event illness as this one, especially from the media and government leaders. With no obvious grounds for their positions, world leader almost as one moved to destroy small business and those dependent on it. World leaders willingly destroyed their own countries’ economies, destroyed the lives of their own citizens, and why they would do that is a mystery to me. Just as it is a mystery to me that virtual every media group joined lockstep in crushing liberty and personal freedom by mounting this great unfounded scare about a nonexistent virus.

    I have watched governments destroy their own tax base and I still can’t understand why. When you truly consider what has /is happening, you have to wonder “who benefits?” Consider the “jabs.” If they truly are the depopulation mechanism that they appear to be, HOW does “big pharma” benefit? They are destroying their income source. Governments destroyed their tax bases, the media destroyed their credibility, hospitals have destroyed their sources of revenue, so WHO benefits? Even a one world government built on the communist doctrine doesn’t benefit.

    To be honest, the ONLY possible things that I can see that could benefit from what has been done is an alien species that wanted to eliminate the current ruling species on a planet that they decided they wanted for themselves. Or the GAIA cult that would like to see “the parasite of humanity” removed from there treasured planet. Any other options?

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      Manjushri

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      There is a certain logic about current global events to suggest an alien takeover is actually in progress!

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      T. C. Clark

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      Uh, are you familiar with China? Why would China…and you can add N. Korea and probably Russia….act against their economy? The CCP has total power so if the virus was not a serious threat, do you think the CCP would have acted in the same manner? The CCP obviously believed if the virus was not prevented from spreading, the economy was going to be in shambles anyway with so many sick people. The death numbers out of China probably should be multiplied by 100….at least. What if? What if a country developed a very deadly virus in a lab…then a vaccine for the virus…then let loose the virus on the world after giving its population the vaccine? That country would then have an advantage over the rest of the world.

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        Tom O

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        And what if it is a psyop, and what if you are wrong about the number of people that died – anywhere, for that matter – from this as still un-isolated virus, in spite of what some people think? You mentioned 3 nations whose economies, actually, weren’t hurt as much by the lock downs in their own countries – assuming they truly had any, as much as from loss of trade with western nations that jumped all over the psyop for their own reasons.

        A lot of strange things going on in the world right now that actually don’t make a lot of actual sense, but that actually doesn’t rule out either mentioned option. When you come right down to it, each country’s leaders chose their path according to their own grand plan, but the “jab” is the issue, not why countries acted as they did. It is the spike protein, not anything else, that may have flushed the human population off the planet in the long run, but whodunnit and why still is hiding in the weeds. It is the spike protein that all the procedures were created to protect against, and it is the spike protein that now appears to be lethal both in the short term and the long term. 50 years from now, there may be no viable trace of human life on the planet beyond aboriginal levels.

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          John Alexander

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          “each country’s leaders chose their path according to their own grand plan” That is very questionable. Looking at the orchestrated global response under the UN WHO/WEF diktat clearly indicates that Governments that have followed this route are either willing accomplices or are under threat. Those leaders with backbone who have refused or denied compliance have been murdered, threatened or have been removed from their positions or are subjected to colour revolutions. It is clear that there is massive intimidation by a Supranational Group , the UN to enforce their demands come hell or high water.

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    hannah horton

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    A brilliant article so right they say anything now a days.
    Really enjoyed reading that very good points john

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      Hannah Horton

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      Randy, why not keep your opinions to yourself if you have to resort to ad hom insults. Governments are deliberately fooling people and you’re one of them

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        Randy

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        No I will not keep my opinions to myself jus5 because you don’t like them. Because I say the virus exists this means that I don’t see the government’s corruption of inflating death counts, locking us down, making the population wear masks, using fake PCR count cases to justify their tyranny? Huh? You are conflating two very different t subjects. The virus is real. The pandemic is fake. See how that works?

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          Hannah Horton

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          Theres loads of proof that it dont exist so you just dont understand then but theres no need to hate that much people have opinions but theres opinions and theres next level and yours is next level act properly and stop ranting this is a professional page not some rant page ..

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    Randy

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    No. It was the opposite of brilliant. The virus exists. It’s been isolated, purified, genetically sequenced, known Paths of Disease have been identified.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-rna-idUSL1N2LS27P
    https://www.flemingmethod.com/documentation
    https://www.wionews.com/opinions-blogs/evidence-suggests-genetic-manipulation-in-covid-19-303189
    https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/news/2020/11/16/kochs-postulates-covid-and-misinformation-rabbit-holes.html
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/niaid/albums/72157712914621487/
    https://principia-scientific.com/virologists-say-genetic-fingerprints-prove-covid-19-man-made/
    https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/01/30/on-the-origins-of-the-2019-ncov-virus-wuhan-china/

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    Randy

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    No it wasn’t brilliant. It was the opposite of brilliant. The virus has been isolated, purified, genetically sequenced, paths of disease identified, etc.

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      MattH

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      Thank you for your comments Randy. All I believe I know is that inside the Wuhan laboratory in China is they do more than play checkers and chess and drink tea and coffee all day.
      One of the beauties of this site, PSI, is free speech.

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        Randy

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        Well so far so good. Unfortunately many of these alternative websites also suppress free speech when you don’t agree with their content. So far my comments have not been censored here yet…

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          Tom O

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          Not nearly as much as the mainstream sites censor open thought. We recognize idiots and trolls for who and what they are, and tend to find it amusing how ignorant they can make themselves sound.

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    Saeed Qureshi

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    Thank you, John, for sharing your thoughts and summarizing the fake-science story so well.

    I am sure that the end of the pandemic/virus story is near. The reason it has not ended yet is that it requires the toppling of the monarchs (“scientists and experts”) of the temples (“shrines of fake science”).

    Reading the responses (hostility) to the article, I become even more confident that demise is near because people are worried about their “science.” Otherwise, there is no need for arguing in such foul language. All they need to do is to show a specimen or a source of it that supplies a pure isolated virus, not a soup (“isolate”). However, they know no one can! So they talk about genome or sequencing – a mantra of the temples for fooling people and keeping the lie continue. Their science is so flawed that they do not realize that to study the genome, sequence, or link it to the virus, one must first have an isolated virus specimen.

    How long can a lie (virus) continue? Probably not very long. Once the public realizes that there was/is no virus, no one will be telling anyone to re-evaluate their degrees and academic credentials. People will know it automatically by themselves.

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    John Alexander

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    Thanks John. I follow you for one of the reasons you are an INTJ personality like me. People with INTJ personality are renowned for logical thinking and intellectual decision-making. A rare quality indeed.

    It is clear that this Covid10 is a contrick and based on a lie. I noticed how the Virology deception agents get hot under the collar when they hear the words “Kochs postulates”. The launch into a frenzy of hype and complete obfuscation. I assume it was the reason that they created “Rivers Postulates” to attempt to bypass the stringency of the aforementioned postulate. This as we know did not help them as Dr Kaufman explained so well in his video – The rooster in the river of rats.
    So then another proposal was made by the virology hoaxer (germ theory) community to have another attempt to obfuscate the postulate of rivers even further so as to confuddle so they could try and prove their lie. Very similar to the MO of climate change… ignore the facts and use emotional argument and when that doesn’t work start de-platforming, vilifying and the outright ban opponents. So they proposed the Fredricks & Relman method. Dr. Tom Cowan, Dr. Andrew Kaufman, and Sally Fallon Morell Statement on Virus Isolation (SOVI) cannot be disputed. It has struck a hard blow to the virus-vaccine cult.
    It is clear that the “virus” theory is false and cannot be proven , so they have now turned to a religious cult type and use resurrection hypothesis to say that a virus is not dead or alive but can be resurrected when it enters a cell using stealth technology. Very much a star wars type belief of the “force be with you”.
    The charade will continue until they are somehow forced or compelled to admit they have lied and face the consequences. This they will not do and TomO elucidates clearly that they will do anything to maintain their power even if it means the destruction of countries, their leaders who are honest if their is such a remaining honest human amongst politicians. It need to be read again
    “I have watched governments destroy their own tax base and I still can’t understand why. When you truly consider what has /is happening, you have to wonder “who benefits?” Consider the “jabs.” If they truly are the depopulation mechanism that they appear to be, HOW does “big pharma” benefit? They are destroying their income source. Governments destroyed their tax bases, the media destroyed their credibility, hospitals have destroyed their sources of revenue, so WHO benefits? Even a one world government built on the communist doctrine doesn’t benefit.” – The answer to that is some do benefit or believe they will benefit. These are the Satanists of the Illuminatii – the Mega Billionaire class who hide behind the UN. The WEF and The Davos Cult. They are truly EVIL.
    Their current MO of using vaccines to destroy humanity in the hope their will be too few to oppose them will be their downfall. Those who refuse to subject themselves to tyranny will overcome and the Evil Cabal will be dealt and Almighty blow.
    In GOD we must believe and trust.

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      John O'Sullivan

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      Thanks, John. All power to the INTJ’s!

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    Guido FORRIER

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    In GOD we must believe and trust??????? is this science ?

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    John Alexander

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    Wow you can spruit rubbish Randy.
    On your first claim. On Isolation. Where then is the aetiology for COVID19. Where has it been reproduced?
    There have been several FOI requests in the US, Canada, UK, Australia and Germany. Not one has been able to definitively produce replicable results of Isolation. In fact Stephan Lanka has demonstrated they are lying when they do. He has already run the same tests they proclaim Isolation with a control and there is no difference. Here go sniff- https://www.bitchute.com/video/jsUVKx6Tal6a/ or Dr. Stefan Lanka’s latest control experiments on CPE in SARS-CoV-2 are here to refute the virologists’ claim CPE – Control Experiment – 21 April 2021. https://odysee.com/@DeansDanes:1/cpe-english:f

    In response to you previous claim Fleming method that he has patented is to sell some software. It proves nothing and is based purely on a computer generated image that supposedly represents something. It trickery simply put. Smoke and mirrors. No different form the PCR trick, just a different method.
    The NCBI claim is fallacious and has already been called out as another .corman-Drosten computer generated in silico (theoretical) made by computer sequences of the viral genome. To date no validation has been performed by the authorship based on isolated SARS-CoV-2 viruses or full-length RNA thereof. No different to BLAST.
    You will also be aware that On November 27, 2020 an International Consortium of Scientists in Life Sciences published an external peer review titled ‘Review Report Corman-Drosten et al. Eurosurveillance 2020,’ documenting 10 major flaws and requesting a retraction.
    As you would be well aware their statement was The CDC scientists state they took just 37 base pairs from a genome of 30,000 base pairs! That means that about 0.001% of the viral sequence is derived from actual living samples or real bodily tissue. Here is the quote:
    “Whole-Genome Sequencing
    We designed 37 pairs of nested PCRs spanning the genome on the basis of the coronavirus reference sequence (GenBank accession no. NC045512). We extracted nucleic acid from isolates and amplified by using the 37 individual nested PCRs.” Isolates form where?

    Electron microscopes images are of dead things not identified as they cannot be Isolated.
    When you get to the point of knowing and understanding exactly what a so-called “virus” is, even based upon the definition established by those who cunningly crafted the concept, i.e., a “non-living particle” up to “500 times smaller than bacteria” that can only be seen “under a scanning electron microscope,” which must be “in a vacuum” and therefore “cannot be wet or moist” so it is “chemically treated” They are artefacts of their preparation procedures the results from metal deposits over those from unfixed living cells. (Prof Harold Hillman)/(Hillman and Sartory, 1980). They also ignore of course structures seen in unfixed tissue by light microscopy
    It is clear they are only looking at tiny microscopic specs within and without of cells under a scanning electron microscope – specs that are nothing more than cell debris. All the Electron microscope is useful for is to demonstrate how impure the “isolate” in fact is.

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      Randy

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      Your whole comment is rubbish. You actually asked where this virus has been isolated after several links to scientific papers have been provided that do just that?! Wow.

      I can provide the evidence. I can’t read it or understand it for you. What the hell does Fleming have software today sell have ANYTHING to do with the copious amounts of evidence given on his appear with over 60 different scientific paper links? Again. Just wow.

      Now you are conflating the use of PCR tests with the identification of the virus? Again. Wow. The PCR test CANNOT identify a live infection. It does only test for a fraction of the base pairs. This literally HAS NOTHING to do with doing genetic sequencing, high resolution imaging, etc to identify a novel virus.

      You electron microscopy comments are absurd. You realize we can take pictures of individual atoms now high are much smaller than the sarscov2 virus right? This article was provided by Principia Scientifica https://principia-scientific.com/highest-ever-resolution-images-of-atoms-zoomed-100-million-times/

      This virus is very real. The evidence I provide for it is overwhelming. You choosing to actively fire it based on your cognitive biases doesn’t make the evidence disappear or become less relevant. Sorry.

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        John Alexander

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        Unfortunately you don’t like the facts, It is well known that there have been many false interpretations of EM’s. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32079-1/fulltext
        So wake up and smell the coffee.
        The simple argument is what happened to the flu?… It disappeared when Covid Contrick appeared. Yet there is no evidence in the all cause mortality mortality figures when compared to previous winter seasons. Strange that Eh.Have another sniff -https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341832637_All-cause_mortality_during_COVID
        You watch too much TV, that is clear, you’re indoctrinated.

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          Randy

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          Riiight. Let’s cherry pick one article suggesting there have been cases of misinterpretation of EM images with all image work sarscov2 in addition to several scientific papers not only isolating the virus but successfully genetically sequencing each of the 29,903 base pairs along with the engineered spike protein features.

          You aren’t engaging in a scientific method whatsoever. You are googling trying to find “evidence” that backs up your disturbing cognitive biases and disturbing they are.

          Again you are CONFLATING several different topics. Did I ever say the pandemic was real? That they are bullshitting us on deaths? They most certainly are counting flu deaths as COVID deaths.

          What in the hell does this have to do with sarscov2 being a real, engineered, well documented and isolated virus? Are you really this dense?

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          Randy

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          Did you even read your reference study?

          And I quote “ EM is considered the gold standard to prove the presence of an infectious unit; in the case of COVID-19 diagnosis, the presence of SARS-CoV-2 particles (figure, A–D) complements the molecular traces of SARS-CoV-2-specific proteins or nucleic acids. Furthermore, EM allows the exact localisation of viruses in tissues and within cells. This, in turn allows target cells of virus infection to be specified (figure E) and informs about the reproduction of the virus.”

          Figures A through E actually show electron Microscopy photos of the sarscov2 virus!!!! So even though the paper is calling out misinterpretations pf the sarscov2 virus via EM images it’s basically telling us how to properly identify it!

          If I were you I would stop posting now. Embarrassing!

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      John O'Sullivan

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      Guido, Two simple facts prove the COVID19 ‘deadly virus’ is a hoax – (a) mortality rates for the last 18 months are average or BELOW average and (b) no government will say they have isolated the virus and/or can show a ‘gold standard’ of it for independent verification. You have been duped, Wake up!

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        Guido FORRIER

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        [email protected] is not about how deadly the virus is Burt about the existence of the virus .
        something to read :
        https://covid-19.sciensano.be/sites/default/files/Covid19/COVID-19_fact_sheet_ENG.pdf
        All articles denying the existence of the virus are counterproductive : the proponents of vaccination can thus dismiss the opponents as fools .
        I am against the so-called vaccines. I understand that the risk of infection is greatly exaggerated, but I will therefore not doubt that the virus exists. Stop ridiculing serious scientists .

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          Randy

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          Well stated Guido. I appreciate there are others here who can ascertain the truth, The virus most definitely exists. The pandemic is fake however. The vaccines are dangerous. Masks don’t work. Neither does social distancing or lockdowns. PCR tests used for identifying active infections are useless. All of these are true.

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            denis dombas

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            even if virus exists it is not dangerous for people with good immune system.Dr Milton Rosenau proved in 1920 that you could not even infect healthy people with “Spanish flu virus, with tests on more than 100 healthy people.What we have now is simple scamdemic nothing more.First PCR tests at 35-45 cycles are up to 97% false positive, therefore fraud!

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            Randy

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            Denis I agree with everything you wrote. Cheers.

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        T. C. Clark

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        Science must equal the TRUTH or it’s not science. Mortality rates are normal? Where? India? How do you know that actions against the Wuhan Virus have not lowered death rates for other causes? And (b), No government will say? All governments lie and then they lie about their lies…sorry to hear that you have not heard about government lies before. All people who believe there is no virus should offer their services for money….volunteer after signing a binding non litigation agreement….and be exposed to people who have the virus and agree to no treatment…not even a little Ivermecin…to prove that the Wuhan Virus is a hoax on the entire world…a flat earth.

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      John Alexander

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      When anyone gives you a paper that suggests the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been isolated, please check the methods sections. If the researchers used Vero cells or any other culture method, you know that their process was not isolation. – Dr Tom Cowan.

      So, go read the article and the claims claims that CDC use. The have simply not proven Isolation or purification. They are playing with a soup in a bowl. A hodgepodge of different cells in a culture. And of course no proof of Isolation or purification.

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    Guido FORRIER

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    [email protected]
    This website is a disgrace and does not serve science. On the contrary: it makes scientists ,who are and think critical, ridiculous .

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    Randy

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    You nailed it. We lose credibility as a community when we spout “Flat Earth” nonsense claiming the virus doesn’t exist when we are trying to point out the lies of the pandemic, mask wearing, social distancing, PCR tests, lockdowns, genetic manipulation kill shots, etc.

    The mainstream just mocks us & stops listening to anything else we say when deny something that is so easily demonstrably true. Lanka, Cowan and Kaufman have done irreparable harm by undermining our whole effort of getting people to see the truth of this plandemic when they erroneously claim the virus doesn’t exist.

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      Zoe Phin

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      Discernment would require understanding the difference between virus isolate and isolated virus. You seemed to have overlooked the nuance, and denigrated those who know the difference.

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        Saeed Qureshi

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        Sorry, Zoe Phin, I read your post after posting mine above describing what you wrote here, which is correct, i.e., Randy is confused by considering “virus isolate” as “virus.” I hope he will realize this error in his understanding.

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          Randy

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          No. I refuse to get muddled by semantically gymnastics. It is not I That is confused. It’s those of you who are denying that the virus has been clearly isolated. Gene sequences mapped, base pairs known. It’s irrefutable. I repeat. It’s irrefutable. This is “Flat Earth” nonsense.

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        Randy

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        This is semantically gymnastics. The virus has been isolated dozens of times. It’s been genetically sequenced. It has exactly 29,903 base pairs. We have identified the engineered spike protein potion which is a smoking gun showing that this virus was engineered. It includes an unnatural furin cleavage site and a high gp120 antigen which has resulted in prion proteins on the tip.

        No one on here has even come close to picking apart the numerous scientific references I have provided backing up my assertions. Not even close.

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          Saeed Qureshi

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          So, it seems that you consider the difference between “virus isolate” and “virus” as “semantically gymnastics.” Thank you for clarifying your understanding of the subject. No further discussion is needed here.

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    Andrew Pilkington

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    Many thanks, John. Thought-provoking article, much obliged.

    There aren’t enough people taking notice of the Warnings concerning the PCR and LFT Nasopharyngeal Swabs being Contaminated with “Ethylene-Oxide” ( “EO”), John?
    Took me ages, but I finally managed to upload a “Compilation” video of the Evidence to my “Roo63” accounts ( “N ATIONAL SECURITY THREAT – …”), and to “Worldwide Awakening” on Facebook, where this Topic is pinned as an “Announcement”, but, through their ignorance, people are being “Murdered” by complying with these “Tests” , John and no one seems to want to know anything about it?

    There’s a Major Setback over here, John. Likely there too? Where people turn Hostile, claiming that they know Someone who died from their “COVID-19” and there is no way to reason with these people. Personally, all I can put it down to, is that the NHS Doctor told them this, or they believe the Death Certificate is irrefutable and to them, neither of these are capable of Lying. They Refuse point blank, to look at the Evidence contained in the Government’s and WHO’s own Statistics.
    We Seriously need “Nuremberg 2”, John. That has to be the Clincher?

    Thank you

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    JaKo

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    Hello,

    I’d like to point out a couple of Logical Inconsistencies 😉

    Firstly — we all agree that governments and representatives of large entities routinely lie, yet we have an exception here taken for granted: “Truthful response to the FOI requests.” This may be the primary source of misunderstanding…

    Secondly — many reputable scientists do consider “Virus Theory” still sound and valid, as, IMHO, Dr. S Lanka’s win in the Bundesgerichtshof (BGH) has proven only that a particular methodology used by virologists is invalid and not that virus(es) don’t exist; while OTOH, that may be a first step on a long journey to dislodge this harmful theory. Hopefully time will tell whether this or other theory prevails; however, the indoctrination by the Allopathic Medicine establishment will be very difficult to “unwash.”

    Thirdly — I recently read an article from a retired Fort Detrick worker describing some of his labor on possible bio-weapons and, considering the world-wide spread of research on mRNA, gain-of-function and other possible helpful/harmful phenomena (e.g. prions, as mentioned in this article), the existence of viruses or similar particles is hard to deny.

    Let’s agree on something for a change:
    “The world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it.” (atributed to A Einstein)

    Cheers, JaKo

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      MattH

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      Hi JaKo . Your sagaciousness is only surpassed by the insights of Lao Tzu.

      The current “pandemic” can manifest as thrombosis of the lungs which appears to be an unheard of or rare manifestation historically. I have found no historical reference to it.

      My hat blew off my head while crossing a harbour bar, can I have yours please?

      Cheers. Matt

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        JaKo

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        I thank you MattH, I think 😉
        The lung thrombosis (also PE) may be described as common now, but there was another significant symptom: See in itn… Strange though, not much mention of this GGO after last year’s “spring wave” died out.
        And sorry, the hat was retired some years ago; it sits on a display shelf now.
        Cheers, JaKo

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          MattH

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          If you do not change direction, you may end up where you are heading. Lao Tzu.

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            Moffin

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            Choose your battles wisely. Sun Tzu.

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            WhoKoo

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            Climate change hoax or big pharma.

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    Randy

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    Here is a study showing how the spike protein itself is toxic to animals. Are all the studies I am sharing fake? Seriously? How do the virus deniers justify their dogma here.

    “ Bridle cites research showing that laboratory animals injected with purified spike protein from SARS-CoV-2 straight into their bloodstream developed cardiovascular problems and brain damage.”
    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/14/covid-19-vaccine-mistake.aspx?ui=1b48b1d56fcfe69b7cee2ef9f670ba4cfc610b4ad239e460d7c680a537517b41&sd=19000101&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210614_HL2&mid=DM910315&rid=1183087079&p4=20130302&p5=

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      Guido FORRIER

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      [email protected]
      Dutch expression : ” Wat baten kaars en bril als de uil niet zien wil ”
      translated : “what use candle and glasses if the owl does not want to see ”
      You will always stubbornly deny the existence of the virus … amen.

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        Saeed Qureshi

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        Thank you.

        So far, I have not been proven wrong.

        Please, prove me wrong by providing a reference or link to a source that supplies a specimen of a pure isolated virus, not links for cultures, isolates, lysates, soups or gunks, or their (unconfirmed) associated pictures of dots, balls, or helixes.

        This is your chance to change my view/thinking and of many others.

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          Guido FORRIER

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          [email protected]
          “Please, prove me wrong by providing a reference or link to a source that supplies a specimen of a pure isolated STARS, not links for cultures, isolates, lysates, soups or gunks, or their (unconfirmed) associated pictures of dots, balls, or helixes.”
          i am a amateur astronomer and I take photo’s of galaxies and nebulae . I even can’t see these objects and I collect photons coming from these objects … you can very easily say that photons do not exist . You can also say that stars don’t exist as nobody can show or give you en example of stars , only photos and analyses of spectra .
          “This is your chance to change my view/thinking and of many others” : why should I ?

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            Saeed Qureshi

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            My dear astronomer, thank you for your response.

            Question or discussion is not about stars, photons, extraterrestrial bodies, etc. It is about the claims that the “virus” has been isolated on this earth. Hence, the question is, who has it or seen it. Provide us a reference or link to the supplier of the pure isolated “virus.”

            Photographs of the virus are acceptable, obtained with the photons of your choice and liking, but taken at the referenced source.

            Please do not provide us photos of the dots, balls, and helixes and call them the pure isolated virus, as they are not. They are photographs of mixtures, soups, gunks of unknown and uncharacterized materials, NOT the pure isolated virus.

            Avail a chance to correct YOURSELF for your own sake. Otherwise, consider that you have been fooled and deceived like many many others.

            Best of luck.

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    Guido FORRIER

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    [email protected]
    I wrote : this website is a disgrace . I must apologise because I see that what I , or Randy or other people wrote is not censored .
    Sorry

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      Saeed Qureshi

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      @ “We used isolates from the first passage of an OP and an NP specimen for whole-genome sequencing.”

      This is what I am trying to explain. It is the “isolate,” i.e., mixture, soup, gunk, NOT the pure isolated virus.

      I have critically reviewed the CDC study in detail, highlighting that there is no isolation of the virus but obtaining a mixture or soup. (see here http://www.drug-dissolution-testing.com/?p=3548).

      People have been fooled big time by the “scientists” and the CDC.

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      Saeed Qureshi

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      I forgot to include that there is no need to send it by UPS.

      As I wrote earlier, a photograph would be sufficient, but the picture has to be of the “pure isolated virus,” not of the mixture/gunk.

      Looking forward to receiving THE picture. Thanks.

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    John Alexander

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    It is quite clear you are an ignoramus.
    Here is some further proof that. I quote from Rosemary Frei- “Duke University pathology professor Sara Miller — herself failed in an April 2021 paper to prove that an electron-microscopy image shows the novel coronavirus. She simply asserted it’s the virus without giving information on, or even references to, the techniques used to show that it is.”. https://www.rosemaryfrei.ca/hiv-now-sets-the-pace-in-the-bogus-vaxx-race/.
    It is exactly the same issue that Luc Montagnier and Robert Gallo to asserted in 1984 that they’d discovered HIV. They made false claims to have isolated HIV and imaged it with electron microscopy. This was confirmed by Hans R. Gelderblom the Head of Electron Microscopy and Imaging for the Robert Koch-Institute. As a matter of fact Prof Montagnier stated that in 1983 there was so little virus in the supernatant harvested from the first patient’s culture that no virus could be visualised in the electron microscope even after pelleting. – page 17 Presidential Aids Advisory Panel Report- Thabo Mbeki report. NOTE Supernatant!
    Maybe you should educate yourself instead of attempting to portray yourself and an “Expert”. It is clear from several rebuttals including mine that you are deluded.
    Both the HIV and SARS-COV have the same problem. Are you aware the SARS-COV was also never Isolated either RKC still has not provided answers when asked by the Virus Mania team for the evidence. This goes back to the early 2005 where question was asked of Robert Kock Institute in Germany on the SARS 1 issue.
    Question 1. Please name the studies that indisputably show that the SARS virus …. has been proven to exist (complete purification), isolation and definition and characterisation of biochemical properties plus electron micrographs).
    Question 2. Please name studies that indisputably show that the virus named above causes disease (and also other factors like malnutrition, toxins, etc do not at least co-determine the course of disease). Complete aetiology.
    As of Today it remains unanswered.
    As there is no proof of Isolation of SARS-COV1 so how can there be a claim that SARS-COV2 is closely related?

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