A Friendly Chat About “Viral” Genomes
“In order to verify and determine the presence of a virus, and following the most fundamental rules of scientific reasoning, the virus needs to be isolated and displayed in its pure form in order to rule out that cellular genetic sequences are misinterpreted as components of a virus.”
Imagine that someone came up to you claiming that they have direct proof that Bigfoot exists. Out of curiosity, you ask this person how they were able to catch the mysterious creature in order to prove its existence, and you add that you would love to go and see it up close with your own eyes in order to verify this monumental occasion for yourself. They respond by saying that they did not actually catch the creature, but that the evidence they obtained is just as good. Confused as to how anything other than having the gigantic Sasquatch on hand could be direct proof of its existence, you ask if you can see the video and/or image that was captured as well as an explanation as to how it was acquired. Looking a little frustrated, they say that they do not have any actual image or video of the beast taken in nature, and that they did not actually observe it in person, but the evidence that they do have is on par with everything you asked for. Getting even more perplexed and a little frustrated yourself, you ask to see the evidence that they feel proves the existence of the elusive behemoth. “Here’s your proof,” they triumphantly exclaim while handing over a computer printout of random A,C,T,G’s as irrefutable evidence of existence.
Bewildered, you ask how this long repeating pattern of four letters is direct proof that Bigfoot exists. They explain that the printout is the embodiment of Bigfoot as it was assembled from a mixture of hair, blood, saliva, and feces samples found at different places within the wilderness. You question how they know for sure that this collection of unrelated samples actually came from Bigfoot rather than from an assortment of species, to which they reply that the genome assembled from this mixture has never been seen before. Stunned by the lack of logic and circular reasoning on display, you point out that this would be indirect evidence at best, and that in order to truly know for sure that the genome belonged to Bigfoot, the creature would need to be present to obtain the samples from. That is the only way a genome would be valid evidence of anything.
The above scenario is something many of us come across in our conversations with those who believe in the existence of invisible fictional boogeymen. Setting aside various other issues with DNA evidence (such as a human being told that they are a dog), those who are beholden to the absolute power of genomic data somehow fail to understand a fundamental logical point: you cannot obtain a genome from something that does not exist. It is not acceptable to take a sample containing an unknown assortment of genetic material and then Frankenstein a genome through computer algorithms and alignment in order to claim that it represents a fictional entity. The data is unreliable as the genetic material is of an unknown provenance, meaning that it is made up of many potential sources and cannot be attributed to a single source. However, this has not stopped investigators from attempting to obtain genomic data from a mixture of genetic material in order to determine the existence of fictional entities. In fact, this was done recently for the Loch Ness monster. In 2019, investigators sequenced everything within the water at Loch Ness in an attempt to determine the genetic make-up of Nessy, resulting in “suggestive evidence” that the Loch Ness monster is, in fact, a giant eel:
Loch Ness monster may be a giant eel
“Researchers from Otago University conducted an enormous environmental DNA (eDNA) sample of the world-famous loch. Within its waters they found the DNA of over 3,000 species, but were unable to find any trace of monster, reptile, or dinosaur DNA. Instead they found a large amount of eel DNA and suggest that the famous ‘monster’ is in fact just a vey large eel.”
https://www.genomebc.ca/blog/loch-ness-monster-may-be-a-giant-eel
However, in 2023, different investigators sequenced samples of the water and determined that Nessy was not a giant eel, but rather a giant blob of algae:
Loch Ness Monster DNA revealed? Mysterious ‘blob monster’ origins detailed in study
“Apparently, the Loch Ness Monster is made of algae, according to DNA samples taken from the waters of Scotland’s Borlum Bay, where the deep sea beast supposedly prowls and has been allegedly spotted in the past.
In one of the largest investigations of the elusive creature in more than half a century, search volunteers Marry Wiles, 49, and Aga Balinska, 42, swear they got a glimpse of the two humps and some sort of third appendage — what they believe to be its head — in the water during an early morning swim in August.”
“The Loch Ness Monster has been supposedly caught on camera numerous times by eager enthusiasts — despite skepticism from nonbelievers — and its activity has allegedly been picked up on sonar and by drones.”
But the latest bizarre sighting prompted a collection of water samples for environmental DNA — or “organismal DNA” shed by organisms by way of skin or excrement — a method used to detect the prevalence of aquatic species without disturbing them.”
“Samples from Nessie’s waters, sent for analysis to the Boulder, Colorado, lab Jonah Ventures, showed only the presence of two types of algae.
”The tests only detected algae, which of course is exciting news if we consider the possibility that Nessie is a giant algae blob monster,” Ken Gerhard, a cryptozoologist and TV presenter, told SWNS.
Obviously, trying to find out anything about a creature never proven to exist by sequencing anything and everything within a environmental sample is rather ludicrous, resulting in a monster that is either an enormous eel or a blob of algae, or perhaps both. Using this data in order to create a genome of a non-existent entity, as happened in the case of Bigfoot, is a major problem. While proponents of genomes will claim that the sequences discovered are unique and unknown, and that a genome cannot be created out of thin air, this absolutely can be done with AI that fabricates DNA sequences and generates human genomes that are not “real:”
“This DNA is not real”: Why scientists are deepfaking the human genome
Researchers taught an AI to make artificial genomes, possibly opening new doors for genetic research.
“Researchers have taught an AI to make artificial genomes — possibly overcoming the problem of how to protect people’s genetic information while also amassing enough DNA for research.”
“Now, researchers from Estonia are going more in-depth with deepfakes of human DNA. They created an algorithm that repeatedly generates the genetic code of people that don’t exist.
Deepfaking Human DNA
“It may seem simple — randomly mix A, T, C, and G, the letters that make up the genetic code — and voila, a human genetic sequence. But not any random pattern of the letters will work. The AI needs to understand humans at the molecular level. This AI has figured it out.
Like the horse deepfakes, the artificial genomes are a convincing copy of a viable person — a human, the researchers believe, who really could exist but doesn’t.”
The team reports that these “artificial genomes” mimic real genomes so much that they are indistinguishable. But since they aren’t real, researchers can mine the data without worrying about privacy concerns. They can experiment with genomes without actual people giving up their private information.”
https://www.freethink.com/hard-tech/artificial-genomes
Thus, it’s not a stretch to believe that the technology is capable of doing so for fictional entities as well. With the ability to fabricate genomes of mythological creatures based off of random samples containing a mixed population of genetic material as well as the ability to create an entire genome out of thin air utilizing AI, it should be very clear why “viral” genomes are not adequate proof of existence for these fictional pathogenic entities. Whatever the genome comes from must actually exist in order to get the genetic material from that is used to create it. For a biological entity of the size of a proposed pathogenic “virus,” the only way that this existence can be theoretically demonstrated is through the utilization of purification methods (ultracentrifugation, filtration, precipitation, chromatography, etc.) on the fluids of a sick host where all of the host materials, foreign materials, contaminants, pollutants, etc. are removed from the sample, leaving only the assumed “viral” particles. This would be the only way to ensure that the genetic material utilized in the creation of the genome came from nothing but the assumed “viral” particles. This is the only logical way that genomic evidence could conceivably be valid evidence.
However, no “viral” genome has ever come from purified and isolated particles taken directly from the fluids of a sick host. The “viral” genomes are always the result of either sequencing from unpurified cell culture creations from a lab (containing animal genetic materials, antibiotics, antifungals, other chemical additives), the unpurified samples from a host (containing host cellular components, bacteria, fungi, and other unknown materials), or the environment (containing many contaminants and unknown sources of genetic material). Thus, the entire database made up of known “viral” sequences have never come directly from just the “viral” particles themselves. They are an amalgamation of RNA from many potential sources assembled into a theoretical genome claimed to belong to a fictional “virus.” Just as no one should take the genome of Bigfoot seriously until it is demonstrated that such a creature exists in order to obtain the genetic material from, no one should accept a “viral” genome until the existence of the pathogenic “virus” has been established and validated scientifically first.
The issue of whether genomes are valid evidence proving the existence of a “virus” is hotly debated with those defending virology, especially as the pseudoscientific field continues to drift into being solely based upon molecular virology. Rather than continue to engage in circular debates about the validity of “viral” genomes with those who are unwilling to be intellectually honest, I decided to have another friendly little chat with my good pal ChatBot in order to see what light could be shed on the subject. Did ChatBot have any evidence of a “viral” genome that came from purified and isolated “viral” particles? If not, wouldn’t it be necessary to have only the “viral” particles on hand in order to obtain an accurate genome? Read on to find out if we were able to come to any sort of understanding and agreement on the matter. 😉
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Tom
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Viruses…the number one con game in medicine.
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Wisenox
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“It is not acceptable to take a sample containing an unknown assortment of genetic material and then Frankenstein a genome through computer algorithms and alignment in order to claim that it represents a fictional entity. ”
Why doesn’t the article mention denovo assembly? This is how they came up with phony covid.
They took lung lavages, which are littered with non-human sources of nucleotides, the fed it to the assembler and told it what to make.
Independent labs could not get the sequence to grow.
They created the vaccine first.
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Warren Klein
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Any registered medical practitioner is not at liberty to act on the above as to deny the existence of viruses will result in re-education or deregistration. It used to be said that viruses are part of germ theory. Germs have long ago been proven beyond reasonable doubt. Not so viruses. Now viruses are treated as dogma and deemed proved beyond challenge. Just a thought, fortunately not registered for anything.
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